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    That's because it's not a war of any kind. It's more like an Accommodation on Drugs.

    There's rehab, community service, counseling, medication, diversion programs to avoid jail time. There's little actual punishment. More like a temporary interference.

    When you see all these people locked up for so-called "drug offenses" they have committed other crimes and that's why they are in jail or prison. In their minds, it's only for a drug charge, they forget all about that family of five they killed when driving under the influence. They forget that they forgot and left the baby in the bathtub until it drowned.

    Not to mention that the police do not want to take on the gangs. The gangs have then out numbered and outgunned. It wouldn't be a contest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    I often wondered with our War on Drugs why these gangs have been allowed to continue doing their business. Trillions have gone to that war and the gangs have slowly eroded formerly livable inner city neighborhoods. That's not just politics: something is really wrong with the War on Drugs.


    Part of the problem with the inner city drug trade is the use of juveniles to sell and transport the actual drugs. Kids get charged as juvies for drug crimes, only for "violent" crimes are they charged as adults. The people behind the drug sales know this and exploit it.


    Because drugs are illegal, yet the demand continues to be high, there will always be people willing to risk everything for the kind of money involved. I'm not for legalizing all drugs, though, having seen the damage up close caused by cocaine and heroin (meth is not a huge problem in Detroit at this point). The War On Drugs hasn't worked, and probably won't work ever because of the high demand and the profits that can be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsycatlover View Post
    It's not preventing her from expressing her faith. It's an admission that the school has lost control of the students and the gangs are in charge.
    Well said & our tax dollars pay for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Part of the problem with the inner city drug trade is the use of juveniles to sell and transport the actual drugs. Kids get charged as juvies for drug crimes, only for "violent" crimes are they charged as adults. The people behind the drug sales know this and exploit it.


    Because drugs are illegal, yet the demand continues to be high, there will always be people willing to risk everything for the kind of money involved. I'm not for legalizing all drugs, though, having seen the damage up close caused by cocaine and heroin (meth is not a huge problem in Detroit at this point). The War On Drugs hasn't worked, and probably won't work ever because of the high demand and the profits that can be made.
    You are completely not understanding the violence, what causes it and where it comes from. The drug dealers have a basic pass from the authorities. There are NO shootouts between the cops and drug dealers. If a dealer is caught, it's by accident. The major shootouts, the drive bys, those are drug dealers and addicts fighting one another.

    The violence is between rival drug dealers fighting over market share. That's why no medical marijuana outlets are in gang controlled territory. It's not safe for them to be there. The violence in mexico isn't because the government is trying to stop illegal sales, it's rival dealers fighting over customers and killing one another's customers.

    The problem isn't really whether or not drugs should be legalized. The problem is really how we came to be a nation where so many of it's people can't get through the day unless they are high. This is a failed state. It is a state the has lost its ability to motivate its people. That's where the problem is and legalizing drugs isn't going to help. If legalizing drugs can be kept peaceful, which is highly, HIGHLY, unlikely, the most likely outcome is an ever growing population of people who can't take care of themselves and require ever more.
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