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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Like with Iraq?

    or is Vietnam a better example?

    Guatemala? Honduras?
    South Vietnam was invaded by the North and requested our help. Iraq had invaded an ally, Kuwait, and then after that war, had violated the terms of the truce repeatedly, including an assassination attempt on a former president. We never went to war with Guatemala or Honduras.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    There is more to it than one country versus another. It is the Muslim community versus the western world.
    That's what Syria is trying to pull of. Assad is afraid that if he is attacked by NATO, he will end up like Qaddafi. His only hope in that case would be to try to turn his personal fight for survival into a jihad against Israel, counting on the culturally ingrained antisemitism of the Arab/Muslim world and the knee-jerk anti-Americanism of the western leftist intelligentsia to create support. Fortunately for him, Obama would never attack an ally of Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    South Vietnam was invaded by the North and requested our help. Iraq had invaded an ally, Kuwait, and then after that war, had violated the terms of the truce repeatedly, including an assassination attempt on a former president. We never went to war with Guatemala or Honduras.


    That's what Syria is trying to pull of. Assad is afraid that if he is attacked by NATO, he will end up like Qaddafi. His only hope in that case would be to try to turn his personal fight for survival into a jihad against Israel, counting on the culturally ingrained antisemitism of the Arab/Muslim world and the knee-jerk anti-Americanism of the western leftist intelligentsia to create support. Fortunately for him, Obama would never attack an ally of Iran.
    We need a good reason to do so before attacking anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    We need a good reason to do so before attacking anyone.
    Syria was responsible for the deaths of over 200 Marines in Beirut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Syria was responsible for the deaths of over 200 Marines in Beirut.
    We will look back one day and realize we missed our chance to roast these bastards when we could, damn the leftists and their media. We need to wake up and recognize that our enemy is waging a very dangerous game. It is the combination of an insidious attack from within by open infiltration by thousands of their own. Gaining sympathy from major organizations that masquerade as reasonable groups like CAIR who use our laws as cover. They also use direct attacks against us to weaken our resolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Yeah... because it wouldn't be that Syria is perpetrating worse crimes on it's own citizens then Libya was when NATO attacked them. But Ody quite clearly explained why we wouldn't go there.

    You fucking tard.

    Israel doesn't need our help to kick Syria's ass anyways. They've done it so many times they've got an SOP written on it.

    They don't need our help in battle, but they need our (US and UK) help diplomatically, to keep the Euro-weenies from taking Syria's side afterward.


    If Assad is that stupid, he deserves to have his own people do him like the Libyans did Khaddafy.
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    Scary game they're playing...Do you suppose this is a direct result...

    US troops surround Syria on the eve of invasion?

    A former official from within the ranks of the Federal Bureau of Investigation is reporting that US and NATO forces have landed outside of Syria and are training militants to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

    Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds, formerly a translator with the FBI, wrote over the weekend that American soldiers are among the NATO troops that have mysteriously and suddenly landed on the Jordanian and Syrian border. According to her, several sources internationally have confirmed the news, although the US media has been instructed to temporarily censor itself from reporting the news.

    Additionally, Edmonds says that American and NATO forces are training Turkish troops as well, to possibly launch a strike from the north of Syria.

    http://rt.com/usa/news/us-nato-syria-edmonds-709/
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    They don't need our help in battle, but they need our (US and UK) help diplomatically, to keep the Euro-weenies from taking Syria's side afterward.


    If Assad is that stupid, he deserves to have his own people do him like the Libyans did Khaddafy.
    He already deserves it.
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    In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Yeah, with a butterfly net.
    Does anyone really expect Germany or France to act on Israeli interests?

    And really, why should they? They don't have a dog in the fight going on in Syria, nor do we;, they have no political stake at all in Israel, though we do.

    As you quite correctly point out, it would not be an arcade shooting gallery game like Libya. Covert support is a sensible option to screw with Assad, while overt intervention is more likely to arouse nationalist opposition to foreign interference and bolster Assad than it is to turn the tide and topple him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Syria was responsible for the deaths of over 200 Marines in Beirut.

    Thank God Gator's gone, or you'd have drawn the lecture on why the US should attack Israel for the USS Liberty with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbAss Tanker View Post
    Thank God Gator's gone, or you'd have drawn the lecture on why the US should attack Israel for the USS Liberty with that one.

    I kinda miss kicking his ass around the place on that topic. Except this time I'd be the one who could ban him for no reason at all. :D
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