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    Even MORE messed-up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Lets put you in the parents place. What then? Was this there fault? Are they not entitled to condolences for the loss of their child?

    Or is your heart so cold you can't feel sympathy for those who lost here?
    My sympathy is reserved for the victims of al Qaeda. The people who went to work in the WTC on 9/11 and never came home and the families that mourn them, for example. Or the parents of children who were killed in suicide bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan and every other place that terrorists have targeted the weakest and most vulnerable to further their sick agenda. Or the little girls who were maimed with acid thrown in their faces for the crime of seeking an education, or... I could go on for days. Do I think that his parents deserve to mourn their child? Sure, why not? But it is not our government's place to mourn with them. He chose treason and jihad, and we chose to survive. The two choices were mutually exclusive, and the Predator drone settled the issue decisively.
    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    The parents are american citizens, despite their son's actions. And every parent loves their son, no matter what he may have done in his life.
    Really? Then why do so many of them in the Middle East raise their children to martyr themselves? Why do they teach them that the highest calling is dying in the service of the jihad, and that dying while killing Jews or Christians (or the "wrong" kind of Muslim) is preferable to life? Parents who love their children don't turn them into bombs, and American citizens whose children betray America have a choice, to either support their nation or their child. If they support America, no condolences are necessary, and if they support their treasonous whelp, then they aren't appropriate.
    Quote Originally Posted by noworries View Post
    I agree no parent should have to face that kind of pain
    And our government shouldn't be forced to inflict it. But as long as their son chose the path of treason, we had no choice.
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    You are assuming that the parents are in pain. They are no doubt, according to their culture, bursting with pride. However, if it could get them a point or two, they will put on a cry-face for the Americans.
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    And our government shouldn't be forced to inflict it. But as long as their son chose the path of treason, we had no choice.[/QUOTE]

    Very true I never thought about it that way
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    Quote Originally Posted by noworries View Post
    Very true I never thought about it that way
    There is a phenomena in law-enforcement called "suicide by cop", in which a perp creates a situation, usually involving hostages, where the police are forced to kill him in order to prevent him from taking someone else's life. This happens because the perp wants to die, but lacks the will to pull the trigger, and so puts the police in the position of having to kill him. The results are always bad for the officer involved, as they have to live with the taking of a life and go through the various departmental investigations, not to mention the harassment from those "community activist" types who invariably blame the police for everything that goes wrong in that kind of situation. There are very few of us in the armed forces who get off on killing, and those who do are removed from it as quickly as possible. We do it because if we don't, then worse things will happen to those that we love and want to protect. Expressing sympathy to the parents of a killer of Americans, a traitor and an enabler of evil, sends a message that our government is more concerned about the feelings of the parents of a traitor than they are about the men and women who were endangered by that traitor.
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