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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    Got stats?
    This coming from the guy who pulled that 80% stat out of his ass.

    You first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    This coming from the guy who pulled that 80% stat out of his ass.

    You first.
    What "stats" are we seeking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    What "stats" are we seeking?
    He was citing some 80% figure and I made the comment that what he was spewing sounded like outdated Cold War stats and in typical Libtard fashion Nova wants ME to prove something he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    This coming from the guy who pulled that 80% stat out of his ass.

    You first.
    Regardless of where I got the figure, it was a question not a statement. Either you know the actual figure or you don't, however since you challenged it then you ought to have one of your own, preferably an accurate one.

    http://www.comw.org/pda/fulltext/041...loyPercent.pdf

    The way I am reading this chart, about 26% of the military is stationed overseas (down from a high during Vietnam) and of that 26% about half are in "overseas military operations" which is defined as a position where combat is or is likely to occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witmaster View Post
    Well… as I’m sure you expected, I vehemently disagree.

    My argument does NOT, as you say, “put me in the same bucket” as everyone else. ..........
    Sure it does. My pay has been frozen; so has yours. My medical expenses have gone up; so have yours.

    The overall total number of living veterans (both prior service and currently still in service) is approximately 22 million. That’s roughly 7% of the total population. Of that 22 million, approximately 9,800,000 receive pensions and benefits.....
    You ignore the problem by lumping in people like me who never retired and are no longer producing anything for the US military in with the active people. Dunno where you get 9.8 million retirees....

    I show 1.5 million active; 1.4 million reserve; and 1.9 million retirees. And that is the problem. We have more retirees than we do active members. It all worked out well back when military people were paid a pittance and most people died at the age of 60, but now they are paid well and live longer, and it creates a problem.

    Population of the US or any other country has nothing to do with it.

    Of course, it is a fact; you military people can't do your job until the age of 60. It's just not possible. It requires too much of you, and I think most people accept the fact that about 20, maybe 30 years is all you have to give. Then you're done. Age 50, +- .

    I don't know what the answer is. The way it is now, we have to support a million man army that doesn't exist. (that is arrived at by taking the 1.9 million retirees and assuming they draw about 50%+ of their salary)

    I can see why you're upset, but I can see the problem for congress, too. I really expect that congress will do nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    Regardless of where I got the figure, it was a question not a statement. Either you know the actual figure or you don't, however since you challenged it then you ought to have one of your own, preferably an accurate one.
    Sorry Libtard...you threw out the stat...you back it up.



    The way I am reading this chart, about 26% of the military is stationed overseas (down from a high during Vietnam) and of that 26% about half are in "overseas military operations" which is defined as a position where combat is or is likely to occur.
    And the other half are in some stage of retrofit after returning from deployment or are in the field currently getting ready to deploy.

    It's a continuous circle that you don't seem to comprehend.
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