Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 42
  1. #11  
    Senior Member Zathras's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    San Jose, California
    Posts
    6,325
    Quote Originally Posted by Nubs View Post
    Why do people continue to believe there is any difference between Germany and Marxism?? Marx and Engels were educated by the same German institution in Berlin- Humbolt University
    Could have something to do with WW2 and Germany's invasion of Russia.
    Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #12  
    CU Royalty JB's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    8,062
    Yes, yes.

    Now if they could just get the leaders of NAMBLA and the KKK to come aboard. woo-hoo.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #13  
    You can never leave hai's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Kapolei,Hawaii
    Posts
    1,132
    Quote Originally Posted by newshutr View Post
    Didn't the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor?
    You guys,it was the Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbor.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #14  
    Power CUer NJCardFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    16,148
    Quote Originally Posted by hai View Post
    You guys,it was the Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbor.
    Wow, talk about something going over someone's head. I bet you thought you had everyone in a gotcha moment didn't you. Well, allow me to educate you on what everyone is talking about:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

    Now go smoke another doob and take a nap.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #15  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    718
    Quote Originally Posted by Zathras View Post
    Could have something to do with WW2 and Germany's invasion of Russia.
    I should have said National Socialism and Marximsm. The only difference is that National Socialism was based on a racial/nationalistic fascism whilst Marxism is based on international fascism. In the end they are both fascist ideologies whose origins trace back to Germany and Humbolt University.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #16  
    Senior Member Zathras's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    San Jose, California
    Posts
    6,325
    Quote Originally Posted by Nubs View Post
    I should have said National Socialism and Marximsm. The only difference is that National Socialism was based on a racial/nationalistic fascism whilst Marxism is based on international fascism. In the end they are both fascist ideologies whose origins trace back to Germany and Humbolt University.
    True, but most people don't know these facts. They assume that Nazism and Marxism are opposites because of the German invasion of the Soviet Union back in 1941.
    Solve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #17  
    LTC Member Odysseus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    FT Belvoir, VA
    Posts
    15,638
    Chris Muir gets it.

    --Odysseus
    Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.

    Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #18  
    Senior Member newshutr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Cleveland, OH
    Posts
    664
    Quote Originally Posted by hai View Post
    You guys,it was the Japanese who attacked Pearl Harbor.
    OMG.....even YOU cannot be that fucking dense.... It was the Japanese that bombed Hiroshima..


    Oh wait....sorry.. forgot my line..got out of character..

    "Forget it...he's rolling.."
    Last edited by newshutr; 10-17-2011 at 07:08 AM.
    Yes..this camera is heavy.
    No...you can't be on TV.
    Look kid, go bother the reporter...I'm busy!!!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #19  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Posts
    950
    Quote Originally Posted by Zathras View Post
    True, but most people don't know these facts. They assume that Nazism and Marxism are opposites because of the German invasion of the Soviet Union back in 1941.
    One would think that NATIONAL SOCIALIST PARTY would clue them in. Is this because we don't educate people any more?
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #20  
    Our widdle friend. Wei Wu Wei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    6,414
    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Shhhh! He's on a roll.

    The National Socialists' Workers Party of Germany was an offshoot of the international socialist movement. It was Stalin who decided that they would be called Fascists, after Mussolini's Facisti Party, which was also a socialist party, in order to create the impression that they were not part of the same movement. In fact, Hitler routinely cited Marx, but not Stalin, claiming that he opposed Bolshevism, but not socialism.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
    "Mussolini claimed that Italian Fascism's economic system of corporatism could be identified as state capitalism which he claimed was state socialism "turned on its head", which in either case involved "the bureaucratisation of the economic activities of the nation."[45] "

    Fascism involved the government increasing its influence and control over businesses, while allowing those businesses to remain privately owned and its profits to go to private individuals.

    There are some elements which overlapped with socialist systems of the time, but the economic power structure didn't change. In socialist systems, the profits are nationalized so the government is involved with micromanagement. In fascism, profits remain private.

    There are similarities between the structure of these governments as well, but also differences. There are major differences between the philosophies of these systems.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    Reply With Quote  
     

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •