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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Extremists on the left truly believe that if violent criminals are exiled from society and allowed to live in the wild, that is enough to stop them from hurting more people.


    There is a novel by Starhawk called The Fifth Sacred Thing. It describes a future in which all of the USA is under control of christian dominionists, except San Francisco. The SF of the novel is a hippie paradise, and a conservative hell. Reading this book is required in some wiccan circles.
    Sounds like a good world to live in, the non SF part of the world I mean.


    Do these poor deluded wiccans really believe this shit? I know a women who believed that stuff,suffice it to say she was a nut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Extremists on the left truly believe that if violent criminals are exiled from society and allowed to live in the wild, that is enough to stop them from hurting more people.
    This was a recurring plot bit in Heinlein's writing, and his novella 'Coventry' is devoted to it. Heinlein's vision is a lot closer to what really faces us than any possibility of a repressive Christian theocracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbAss Tanker View Post
    This was a recurring plot bit in Heinlein's writing, and his novella 'Coventry' is devoted to it. Heinlein's vision is a lot closer to what really faces us than any possibility of a repressive Christian theocracy.
    it's Ironic when libs take Heinlein's work and think he's promoting liberal ideals, particularly Stranger in a Strange Land and then turn it into some dumbass religion
    "Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings..." Patrick Henry
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Extremists on the left truly believe that if violent criminals are exiled from society and allowed to live in the wild, that is enough to stop them from hurting more people.


    There is a novel by Starhawk called The Fifth Sacred Thing. It describes a future in which all of the USA is under control of christian dominionists, except San Francisco. The SF of the novel is a hippie paradise, and a conservative hell. Reading this book is required in some wiccan circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    it's Ironic when libs take Heinlein's work and think he's promoting liberal ideals, particularly Stranger in a Strange Land and then turn it into some dumbass religion
    He slowly changed his view to a more conservative outlook later in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey View Post
    He slowly changed his view to a more conservative outlook later in life.
    while true, by the time he wrote Stranger in a Strange Land in 1961 he had stopped considering himself a Liberal and stopped his affiliation with the Democrat party (which he'd done in 1954)
    "Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings..." Patrick Henry
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    CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) – An “Occupy Cleveland” protester tells police she was raped in her tent over the weekend.

    Cleveland police are investigating an alleged sexual assault incident Saturday at the “Occupy Cleveland” rally involving a 19-year-old female student from Parma.

    According to police reports, the 19-year-old student was instructed by “Occupy Cleveland” personnel to “share a tent with the suspect due to a shortage of tents.” The suspect identified himself as “Leland” to the woman. The woman told police that after she had thought the suspect went to sleep in his own bed, she slept in a sleeping bag provided to her by the rally.



    The student went to school Monday and told a teacher about her sexual assault incident in Public Square — which is being classified as “kidnapping/rape” — prompting the teacher to immediately contact the authorities. ...
    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2011/1...she-was-raped/

    That policy doesn't seem to be terribly effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    while true, by the time he wrote Stranger in a Strange Land in 1961 he had stopped considering himself a Liberal and stopped his affiliation with the Democrat party (which he'd done in 1954)

    But that's the book the hippies used to base a religion upon, The Church of All Worlds. They used to publish a magazine called The Green Egg. The best thing about the GE, other than the semi-pornographic artwork, was the reader's forum. There was a great, on-going letter war between Patricia Keneally and those who think they are in contact with the spirit of the Lizard King. If you know anything about wicca and/or the Morrison cult....Keneally might be crazy, but she's also a member of MENSA and knows how to express a clever insult. And only she has a direct spiritual connection to Jim, no other posers do! They were handfasted in a civil ceremony! They had a love no one else can understand, because it spans many lifetimes!

    The people who founded CAW also raised and sold goats that somehow had only one horn, and they sold them as "unicorns". Of course, they live in California.
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    Occupy Events Nationwide Marred by Reports of Sexual Harassment, Assault

    John on October 19, 2011 at 2:04 am

    The Occupy movement has a serious, nationwide problem with sexual harassment, assault and even alleged rape. While local media has dutifully reported on these incidents, the national media hasn’t noticed the problem. As you’ll see, there is even evidence that some Occupy outposts are subtly discouraging the reporting of assaults to police.

    Let’s begin with this report of sexual harassment at Occupy Oakland in yesterday’s Oakland Tribune:

    City officials said Tuesday they may have to shut down the Occupy Oakland tent city in coming days because it is attracting rats, alcohol and illegal drug use…

    This comes on the heels of increasing reports of illegal drug and alcohol abuse, fighting, and sexual harassment in and around the camp of about 100 tents, Boyd said. ...
    http://www.verumserum.com/?p=30928
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    RAH was always far more a Libertarian than a Liberal. He eventually became kind of an over-the-top Libertarian, when he got to Stranger in a Strange Land and later works.
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