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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The quote in the OP sounds very clearly pro-choice. Wanting the family to decide for themselves and keeping the government out of it is the definition of pro-choice.

    You may be 100% against abortion in your own life, but if you think that the choice should still be your own and not the government's, that's still pro-choice.
    Rush Limbaugh was raked over the coals for this. He came out and said he had changed his opinion and was now pro choice. He chose LIFE. The pro abortion crowd nearly blew their collective heads off (no big deal since the heads were empty).

    What that did was expose them for their real agenda which is anything but choice. Had they been "Pro Choice, they would have been ambivalent over any choice. By their reaction to Rush, they were obviously anti-LIFE.
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    Yikes...

    Well Huckabee ain't too happy with the Cain train for these remarks. Hucks got alot of influence in Iowa too.

    Hope this isn't the derailment. Cause if he doesn't do well in Iowa he isn't going to win the nomination. He doesn't have the money.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mike-huck...has-been-done/

    Things only got more complicated when Cain went on to say on Fox News that he was so pro-choice, as far as the government’s place in the abortion debate stands, that he would disregard the law in an event where a family member was legally prohibited from receiving an abortion. Needless to say, for Huckabee, this was a bridge too far.

    Calling the stance “very pro-choice,” Huckabee argued that even with Cain trying to backtrack by calling himself “100% pro-life,” there was little repair he could do to his comments. “The damage has been done,” Huckabee concluded, particularly with religious voters and social conservatives. “He cannot win Iowa by offending them,
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    If Cain danced around a bon fire with goat skin leggings I would still support him at this point. Any Conservative that can unseat the current Narcissistic Potentate has my backing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    If Cain danced around a bon fire with goat skin leggings I would still support him at this point. Any Conservative that can unseat the current Narcissistic Potentate has my backing.
    You got that right. I don't care whether Cain is pro choice or pro life. I just want obonehead out of office.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    Yikes...

    Well Huckabee ain't too happy with the Cain train for these remarks. Hucks got alot of influence in Iowa too.

    Hope this isn't the derailment. Cause if he doesn't do well in Iowa he isn't going to win the nomination. He doesn't have the money.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mike-huck...has-been-done/
    The Huckster is a joke...guy annoys me to no end...so glad he isn't running this time
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    Babies are murdered every day regardless the president in the WH. I'll worry about the next president's Conservatism on financial issues first. His plans for fixing the economy and reversing 100 years of liberal idiocy and big government is paramount. Worrying about an issue that he cannot and will not effect any change on is not a concern when the country is falling apart.
    It's amazing! What was such a big issue (to me at least) three years ago has paled in comparison to what we have facing us now. It's not on the radar. I don't care. What our problems are today have just so overwhelmed and overshadowed someone's pro life or not position has become meaningless.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsycatlover View Post
    It's amazing! What was such a big issue (to me at least) three years ago has paled in comparison to what we have facing us now. It's not on the radar. I don't care. What our problems are today have just so overwhelmed and overshadowed someone's pro life or not position has become meaningless.
    I'm glad you see it that way. The liberal media will attempt to make ancillary and unimportant topics into "issues." Then they will start to convince us who is "electable" and "unelectable." We need to resist allowing the media and the RINO political class convince us of who the candidate "has" to be.

    If we do not nominate a true Conservative, we will ensure another 4 years of the Idiot-In-Chief.
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    I thought he had said he was pro life, and that he didn't even think there should be exceptions to save the life of the mother. Then again, I read it on Free Republic, and that is certainly what the posters there want to believe about his stand on abortion.
    As if the abortion issue is as show stopper. It is a low priority issue IMO.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    Rush Limbaugh was raked over the coals for this. He came out and said he had changed his opinion and was now pro choice. He chose LIFE. The pro abortion crowd nearly blew their collective heads off (no big deal since the heads were empty).

    What that did was expose them for their real agenda which is anything but choice. Had they been "Pro Choice, they would have been ambivalent over any choice. By their reaction to Rush, they were obviously anti-LIFE.
    Saying they are pro choice is a way of sugar coating their true opinions, a way of avoiding the morality issue of abortions.
     

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