#1 Regarding the male privelige...Apologists and those who want to troll don't bother...10-21-2011, 11:05 AM
WOOT!!! I knew this would get UGP's fur riled!!! :D
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Thu Oct-20-11 05:06 AM
Original message Regarding the male privelige...Apologists and those who want to troll don't bother reading this.
Being Transgendered,a Female to male ,I can tell you first hand that male privilege exists.Some guys DO talk about women like a piece of meat to fuck.They do get off on depictions of female degradation. It's disgusting how arrogant some guys are strutting around like little roosters,and hollering a sexual slurs,or harassment to a woman happens to be near or touching her when she does not want to be touched,that is bullying and a disregard of her humanity and her power over her own body.No male would tolerate it if a woman the male did not like groped him he would stop the groper.If a woman punches a groper she's a prude a harpy,in reality just like the man,she's defending the boundary of his body.Everyone has a right to defend themselves from unwanted gropes,touches or cruel comments.Sadly women have forgotten they have a right to defend themselves as much as any guy would. This is about POWER and the abuse of it.
... Rape can permanently damage a person for LIFE. I have seen guys joking about it, in private,looking at women tied up in ropes.It was a mental circle jerk to the idea of gang raping a helpless person. It was a terrible thing to witness but these guys didn't see it that way because the power dynamics of abuse they were doing was invisible to them..They didn't know I was not always a guy,so they were disarmed around me. I have the testosterone level of a normal guy, my blood tests prove it and yes some things changed ,but I have not become cruel.I see a nice looking person I don't have to yell anything about her body in public to appreciate her seductiveness or beauty. In reality There is no need to ever believe any guy says MUST have sex, or needs to look at violent porn to get off or cannot control his sexual drive ,he is a liar 100%.A guy who yells shit at women about their bodies is a man that likes to scare/intimidate/humiliate, or abuse power with women,it's a lust for POWER not lust or love, or even lust at all motivating that,it is reinforcing rank of power.. It may very well be a learned behavior or a sadist problem it's really a distortion of power some men have.A gender based DISPARITY OF POWER is what's defined as male privilege.Along with abusing power and the desire to make a woman feel bad,or be intimidated.Stuff like looking at porn is not a victim-less act,men may very well be looking at pictures of slaves.Confront them and they go denying the women in the pictures could be a fuel for sex trafficking,a huge profit maker for criminals.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4532617.stm To some men who behave this way or apologists for it are unaware of the other's point of veiw,reinforcing the invisibility of privilege.Rank is a drug. The more you have, the less aware you are of how it effects others negatively.
All that shit like porn,dehumanizing women,violating boundaries that certain men defend like an addict claiming his heroin use is not hurting anyone, has NOTHING to do with having testosterone in your bloodstream ,love or sexuality at all.It has everything to do with POWER and the abusive dynamics of power that privilege provides a place for.The more conscious we are of rank and privilege in all it's forms and seek to SHARE power and strive for more equality the less conflict privilege will cause for people.
Of course, anything by this kook is "point" worthy...:DMay the FORCE be with you!
10-21-2011, 11:28 AM
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Where's the privelage part? It is illegal to rape or to grope a woman who doesn't want to be groped.
10-21-2011, 11:32 AM
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This one cracks me up:
Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Fri Oct-21-11 08:04 AM
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70. Yes. Whether you realize it or not. Just by virtue of your gender and skin color,
you wield far greater power than you think. People simply don't make unflattering assumptions about you, your character, your family, your friends, or what you do--simply because of your gender and skin color. That's just how it is.
10-21-2011, 12:07 PM
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does this idiot think that bullshitting between guys is serious? it's just that, bullshitting...now there is a point where it goes to far, but very rarely"Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings..." Patrick Henry
10-21-2011, 12:58 PM
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Whenever I read stuff like this, I get a mental imagine of some strange creature, obscured by too much hair and bulky clothing, hovering over an old desk top computer, in a "studio apartment" in San Francisco, with a bowl of Ramen, a bowl of pot, and a bowl of prescription mood leveling drugs, typing really long sentences with vigor and the belief that it matters as he shivers in the cold damp night air and imagines how envious the rest of the country must be of someone who lives in San Francisco, in a studio apartment, with a bowl of Ramen, a bowl of really good pharmaceutical pot, a bowl of prescription mood leveling drugs, and a hat that was handwoven by Native Americans in a sustainable collective on Potrero Hill and sold in a co-op in The Haight.While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
Dying to believe in what you heard
I was staring straight into the shining sun
10-21-2011, 04:08 PM
UP is at it again
I would have thought that she/he would been spending some quality time with the doctors and nurses at the local mental hospital; I was wrong.
I guess cutting yourself, calling your counselor at home and informing him of your cutting yourself, the cops coming over to take you to the hospital ( you know, that danger to yourself thing) , fighting with the cops when they try to take you the hospital, and then bitching about how you were embrassed in front of the other people in the neighborhood ( who most likely knew you were a loony and an attention whore ) doesn't earn a stay at the psych ward.
UP should have been checked in to a mental hospital some time back, get the proper meds ( and made sure he/she took those meds ), and kept away from the destructive advice of DU and all the other metal midgets on and off the net.
At this rate, UP is bound to do something really crazy and be put away ( most likely prison then a proper hospital) and DU won't even care when it happens.
Last edited by Dan D. Doty; 10-21-2011 at 04:12 PM.CU's Paranormal Expert.
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