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#1 Former Marine SGT at OWS10-21-2011, 03:11 PMSgt. Shamar Thomas USMC Veteran. I took an Oath that I live by. I am NOT anti-NYPD. I am anti- Police Brutality. I am no longer under contract with the USMC so I do NOT have to follow military uniform regulations. I DON'T affiliate myself with ANY GROUPS or POLITICAL ORG. I affiliate myself with the AMERICAN PEOPLE that's it. I REFUSE to affiliate with anything that SEPERATES. There is an obvious problem in the country and PEACEFUL PEOPLE should be allowed to PROTEST without Brutality. I was involved in a RIOT in Rutbah, Iraq 2004 and we did NOT treat the Iraqi citizens like they are treating the unarmed civilians in our OWN Country. No one was brutalized because our mission was to "WIN the hearts and minds", why should I expect anything less in my OWN Country
so what are peoples take on this?
Here's an interview: Please try to hold your nose cause it's Keith Olberman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yEm87vZ82EGun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound - Unknown
The problem is Empty People, Not Loaded Guns - Linda Schrock Taylor
10-21-2011, 04:15 PM
- Join Date
- Sep 2011
He thinks the mission of the government in the US is to win the hearts and minds?
10-21-2011, 05:56 PM
- Join Date
- Apr 2005
Ok shall we count the violations of the USMC dress code for former Marines that he's violating?
Assuming this guy isn't a candidate for Stolen Valor. Especially since it appears his Silver Star ribbon is in he wrong place.
10-21-2011, 09:20 PM
- Join Date
- May 2008
- Locked in a Dungeon, being tortured and LOVING IT!
This is the ribbons on his coat
Which should be;
Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal - Combat Action Ribbon - Navy Unic Commendation - Good Conduct Medal - National Defense - Iraq Campaign - Marine Expeditionary Service - Global War On Terror - Sea Service Deployment
This is a photo of him addressing school kids from a couple of years ago.
He is how ever in violation of numerous military regs, but in all, I doubt any thing will be done about it.Klaatu barada nikto
10-21-2011, 09:45 PM
He is certainly in violation of the Marines' regs for wear of the uniform after discharge:
APPROPRIATE WEAR OF THE UNIFORM AND MEDALS/RIBBONS
1. Regulations governing the wear of uniforms by active duty/retired, former Marines and civilians serving with the Corps:
Chapter 11 MCO P1020.3G, Marine Corps Uniform Regulations (Source Document)
Basic guidance (Active Duty/Reservist/Retiree and Former Marines) –
v Grooming Standards. Anyone who wears the Marine Corps Uniform must abide by the Marine Corps Grooming standards (paragraph 1004 and 8000.2 of the Uniform Regulations). Active duty/Reservists/Retirees and former Marines must also abide by the height and weight standards (paragraph 8000.2 of the Uniform Regulations).
v Wear of Proper Insignia and Awards. When wearing a Marine Corps uniform you may only wear your current rank, or the rank that you left the service with and may only wear the awards you rate per your personnel records. No deviations of this policy are authorized.
v Activities where you may not wear the Uniform. Paragraph 11002 of the Uniform Regulations provides a list of activities that you may not wear the uniform (i.e. to an event that brings discredit to the Corps, to events in support of political interests, private and/or commercial employment…).
v Retiree/Reservist Wear of Uniforms. As a Retiree/Reservist you may wear the uniform for basically any event that you wore the uniform while on active duty.
v As a former Marine there are some restrictions:
Ø You must have served during a time of war (i.e. earned the National Defense Medal during your time in service) and received an honorable discharge to wear the uniform.
Ø Events you are restricted to wearing it to:
§ Military funerals, memorial services, weddings, and inaugurals.
§ Parades on national or state holidays; or other parades or ceremonies of a patriotic character in which any active or reserve United States military unit are taking part. ‘Wearing of the uniform or any part thereof at any other time or for any purpose is prohibited.’
§ Recipients of the Medal of Honor may wear the Marine Corps uniforms at their pleasure except for those specific occasions listed in paragraph 11002 of the Uniform Regulations
I'd say that wearing half the uniform, with a goatee, while protesting on behalf of anarchists and appearing on any TV show with Kieth Olbermann qualifies as a violation of the grooming standards and prohibition on appearing at events that will bring discredit to the corps.
10-21-2011, 09:50 PM
- Join Date
- Jun 2005
- Woodland Park, Colorado, United States
Appearing with that idiot, Herr Olbermann, is a violation of common sense, decency, and good judgement. He disgraces his uniform and himself. He deserves no special treatment.:mad:Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
10-21-2011, 10:26 PM
Everyone is tripping over themselves to point out what rules he may be breaking, why is no one discussing what he is saying?Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
10-21-2011, 10:52 PMSolve a man's problem with violence and help him for a day. Teach a man how to solve his problems with violence, help him for a lifetime - Belkar Bitterleaf
Liberalism is what the stupid think is smart.
10-21-2011, 11:40 PM
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