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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    SO is the post office, but some around here begrudge them every dime they make, their benefits, and their retirement.
    I'm not among them. If one doesn't like the PO or their benefits, use another company. Last I checked though, the postal workers weren't facing long deployments and enemy bullets. Matter of opinion I guess.
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    The increased cost to wallmart was not entirely passed on to employees, Wallmart payed most of it so their overall amount they pay per employee has increased. I would say Walmart has increased employee benefits.
    How is obama working out for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zathras View Post
    You afraid for your job here?
    That's actually funny.


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    Really? Maybe you should take your own advice because 9 times out of 10 when you post you're that raging jackass Nova.
    That's so sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    That's so sweet.
    But so true.
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    Wal-Mart improves access to healthcare by raising the real incomes of all the millions of people who are its customers or the customers of its competitors, whose prices are lower because of its powerful competition. This allows people to be able to afford healthcare more easily than they otherwise could.In spite of this fact, another one of the Wal-Mart critics' favorite complaints is that Wal-Mart "reduces access to healthcare." The Wal-Mart critics believe this because Wal-Mart does not offer substantial healthcare benefits to all its employees. Employees who don't have substantial healthcare benefits are often unable to afford healthcare on their own, and thus they are left with little or no access to healthcare. Wal-Mart is blamed for their plight since the company is allegedly capable of offering more healthcare benefits but chooses not to. In part the critics are right; access to healthcare is becoming more problematic, but this is not caused by Wal-Mart or by "corporate greed." It is the result of an irrational healthcare system that causes us all to suffer, including Wal-Mart.
    "Wal-Mart has made the system ingenious so its employees don't have to be."
    This is not an article on the problems in our healthcare system. So I can only deal with that subject very briefly here. Many people are under the false impression that employers are responsible for the healthcare costs of their employees. The reason that so many people have this misconception is due to government intervention. For several decades, the government has put pressures — mainly powerful tax incentives — on companies to offer healthcare as a fringe-benefit. It has artificially created a system in which it is cheaper for an employer to purchase healthcare for an employee than for that employee to buy healthcare for himself with take-home wages. This has caused healthcare fringe-benefits to become so widespread for so long that most people have forgotten that they are fringe-benefits (i.e., an alternate way to pay wages.) Instead, many people incorrectly believe that healthcare benefits for employees are a moral duty of employers in addition to wages. But healthcare costs are not the responsibility of employers any more than the costs of food or clothing or anything else are.The disastrous byproduct of healthcare fringe-benefits being offered on such a widespread basis is that healthcare costs have become collectivized. Employers cannot directly pay unlimited amounts for all the healthcare any employee would ever desire, so instead they routinely contribute amounts into employee health "insurance" policies. Employees spend money for healthcare out of giant pools of these contributions. If employees bought healthcare with take-home wages, they would have no reason to collectivize all their healthcare costs in health insurance policies. Many employees would get health insurance for catastrophic events, but not for routine health expenses.Unfortunately, collectivization turns economic progress on its head. Healthcare is a product of human labor. Just as we can improve our ability to produce all other products through increases in productivity, we can improve our ability to produce healthcare. The same market mechanisms that caused television sets to become increasingly better and more affordable can cause all healthcare to become increasingly better and more affordable. But instead of becoming more and more inexpensive as time goes by, healthcare in our country is becoming more and more expensive, a typical result of collectivization. Since money for healthcare is spent out of giant pools of contributions, for the most part, people don't feel any direct financial effects from their healthcare expenditures. Therefore, an individual has little reason to show any restraint in his healthcare spending, and few people do when they know "insurance is paying for it." Furthermore, there is no limiting force on prices of healthcare. Healthcare providers want prices going up higher and higher without limit, and healthcare buyers who don't feel the direct financial effects of buying healthcare have no reason to exert pressure on providers to keep prices down. Mainly for these reasons, healthcare costs are sharply rising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    Wow, you have been stupid for a very long time. How is it that you haven't improved your IQ in three decades?
    I guess "they saw you coming" way back then and nothing has changed. No wonder you want somebody else to pay for your free ride.




    The major problem is the fact that self insured corporations have to now cover children up to the age of 27 and it's killing the trust funds. Many other places will simply eliminate insurance by 2014...I know folks that work for huge corporations like John Deere that had to eliminate prescription coverage on salaried empolyees due to the cost of being self insured.

    The reform laws helped the insurance companies, but not many others.
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