Just to prove my point that I did respond to those particular posters.
In the above post, Apocolypse said he'd side with the cop simply because this marine declared to hate other marines. I guess being hateful is a capital offense now.
In the above post, I commented Zathras for the following comment:
So if you simply fail to "follow instructions" then you should have a canister bounce off of your head. No sympathy deserved. The problem with this logic is that all of those who are breaking the law in these protests are failing to follow instructions. They don't have to be somebody throwing bottles. Zathras did not make that distinction in this post.Well, that wouldn't have happened if he'd followed the instructions of the police as he should have. Actions have consequences. Scott Olsen's consequences for his failure to obey the OPD was to have a tear Gas Canister bounce off his head.
I missed marv.
So if you break the law, you deserve what you get?...but when you voluntarily put yourself in harm's way while breaking the law........
Zathras did respond back to what I was saying with some more clarification although I didn't agree with some of it.
But maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way. Maybe this protester should have listened to his intuition. For example, I get a feeling that if I don't leave right now or agree with people, you might just throw a ban canister at my head. You are a mod and you're going around calling me a troll. Makes sense.
It all depends on what they DO while they are protesting. Not every act is harmless just because they are protesting! Attack the cops and you get what you get, even if it's a protest. That's why only peaceful protests are legal. Otherwise, like this guy, you can get your head kicked in.
The police can only react to what faces them. They are not psychologists or psychiatrists, and cannot look into the mind of a mob throwing bricks, rocks and bottles at them.
When they advocated boycotting the bus system, the idea was to hurt them financially. That's what some here want to happen to the bigger banks. Imagine this. You have some pushy sales person insisting you can afford a loan on a house, and it turns out you really can't. They knew this the entire time. Instead of trying to renegotiate the monthly payment, they get the government to bail them out and they sell the house for let's say two thousand dollars. Don't you think that's bullcrap? Don't you think some of the Occupy protesters have a point? I personally knew a guy who got told that because his late aunt owed money to a nursing home, he'd have to come up with that money or they'd take the house she left him. Well, he couldn't get the money at first, but he finally got it through a bank loan. By then, they wouldn't accept it. They sold his house for like a thousand dollars. They knew they could get away with it because they'd be bailed out. Fortunately, the other person decided they didn't want the house so he got his house back with that money, but you see my point? Some institutions need to be hit where it hurts (the wallet) so they'll stop mistreating people so much.
BTW, I actually expect somebody to come in justifying the above paragraph.
I'll agree he is a turncoat. I guess there is a reason why he sees the war differently. He can object to the war without having a website about hating the marine corps. My objection was the idea that he deserved what happened to him because of the hateful things he said about marines. That's what somebody in this thread said. I don't agree with that. Now, if the guy was stupid enough to say that to the faces of some marines, I'd have more sympathy if that marine beat him senseless.I was the one who called him a turncoat, because of his website, which is a vile series of slanders of his former Corps members. I didn't say that he deserved to die for being one, but only that Wei only cared for those military members who turn on the rest of us. If a cop who was a former Marine was injured by a rioter, Wei wouldn't have given him the time of day.
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