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  1. #1 My Letter to the RNC 
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    Dear Chairman,

    I am an active giver to the GOP. I am a fiscal and social Conservative but tend to keep social issues out of my primary consideration when voting, and I default to social issues when it is the deciding factor between candidates.

    I am worried that the establishment GOP has not embraced the message of the last 20 years. We need a return to staunch Conservative ideals and not a politically motivated, Democrat/liberal light. The GOP cannot out-Democrat the Democrats and should not try. Where is the RNC platform this election season? If we don't elect a real Conservative, I assure you that we will suffer and possibly not survive another four years of this Marxist agenda we are currently experiencing.

    We have a real problem with message. The media is obviously in the bag for the liberal agenda so we must rely upon other sources to get our message out. That message must be clear and concise. It must contain the essential elements of real Conservatism and not a cowardly political half step of embracing progressive ideas that are bankrupting our country. We as Republicans have failed to return this country to fiscal responsibility. We have allowed the DC ruling class to tell us what is politically expedient and not what is good for the country. I assure you that Washington GOPers had better get this message loud and clear. They don't get that message from the echo chambers of Washing D.C. circles. They haven't gotten the message from electoral failures or successes. What will it take? The message is clear; return this country to sound and reasonable fiscal Conservatism. Reverse 70 years of Progressive nonsense.

    I have a few proposals:

    1. Slash government regulation. The federal register is nearly 80,000 pages long. Cut it to a less but still ridiculous 40,000 pages of anti-job growth regulation.
    2. Reverse entitlement programs. Get this country back to the days when charity was exactly that and not mandatory tax payments to Nanny Mc Government. It is NOT the job of the government to steal taxpayer dollars to play government charity. Charity is given, not taken.
    3. Stop listening to liberal media's ideas of "acceptable or electable" candidates. That mentality gave us establishment acceptable candidates that resulted in the current administration. An administration that effectively shut out Republican voices for two years while they rammed their Marxist utopian ideas down our throats in the secrecy of their dens.
    4. Develop clear issues that are non-negotiable. Have our nominee agree to those ideas regardless of political consideration. Cowardice at this point will result in defeat and the end of the GOP. Voters will not be excited to vote Democrat lite when they can vote for the full leaded version.
    5. Put forth a principled Conservative candidate that will listen to the real America, not the entitlement minded, inner city, metropolitan leaches that don't value our country or its ideas. The real Americans are waiting for leadership. We are tired of Socialism and leadership by teleprompter.

    Sincerely,
    AmPat
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    1) "Repeals ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, and Sarbanes- Oxley. Mandates REINS-style requirements for thorough congressional review and authorization before implementing any new regulations issued by bureaucrats. President Paul will also cancel all onerous regulations previously issued by Executive Order."

    2) "Honors our promise to our seniors and veterans, while allowing young workers to opt out. Block grants Medicaid and other welfare programs to allow States the flexibility and ingenuity they need to solve their own unique problems without harming those currently relying on the programs."

    3) Don't think I need to justify this one.

    4) Or this one.

    5) "America is the greatest nation in human history. Our respect for individual liberty, free markets, and limited constitutional government produced the strongest, most prosperous country in the world. But, we have drifted far from our founding principles, and America is in crisis.
    Ron Paul’s “Restore America” plan slams on the brakes and puts America on a return to constitutional government. It is bold but achievable. Through the bully pulpit of the presidency, the power of the Veto, and, most importantly, the united voice of freedom-loving Americans, we can implement fundamental reforms"

    Check it out: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issue...store-america/

    A lot of folks here love to hate on Ron Paul but the simple facts are:

    1) he's the only candidate that has proposed serious and bold reform to fiscal and legislative policy.

    2) he's the only candidate with a record consistent enough to be trusted to carry out his campaign promises.

    3) contrary to popular belief: Ron Paul is not and has not ever been a 9/11 Truther and I defy anyone here to produce evidence that he is, Ron Paul believes in non-interventionism and free trade not isolationism.


    I'm not here to ram my beliefs down anyone's throat but these are points you should consider as you choose a new candidate
     

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    Powerlifter, there's really no point in trying to talk to these guys about Ron Paul.

    Fox News and popular talk radio has decided to ignore or marginalize him, so their minds are made up.

    Unless Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh change their tune, they won't even consider it.
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    1) he's the only candidate that has proposed serious and bold reform to fiscal and legislative policy.
    Remember Ross Perot? Paul would have the same effect. He has many good ideas but his continued run will have the unacceptable result of the 2ND term for the Marxist In Chief.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Powerlifter, there's really no point in trying to talk to these guys about Ron Paul.

    Fox News and popular talk radio has decided to ignore or marginalize him, so their minds are made up.

    Unless Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh change their tune, they won't even consider it.
    No Weibrain, we aren't like the Borg from the left. We think for ourselves. Take your projection back to the hive where it rightfully belongs.
    Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
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    Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    Dear Chairman,

    I am an active giver to the GOP. I am a fiscal and social Conservative but tend to keep social issues out of my primary consideration when voting, and I default to social issues when it is the deciding factor between candidates.

    I am worried that the establishment GOP has not embraced the message of the last 20 years. We need a return to staunch Conservative ideals and not a politically motivated, Democrat/liberal light. The GOP cannot out-Democrat the Democrats and should not try. Where is the RNC platform this election season? If we don't elect a real Conservative, I assure you that we will suffer and possibly not survive another four years of this Marxist agenda we are currently experiencing.

    We have a real problem with message. The media is obviously in the bag for the liberal agenda so we must rely upon other sources to get our message out. That message must be clear and concise. It must contain the essential elements of real Conservatism and not a cowardly political half step of embracing progressive ideas that are bankrupting our country. We as Republicans have failed to return this country to fiscal responsibility. We have allowed the DC ruling class to tell us what is politically expedient and not what is good for the country. I assure you that Washington GOPers had better get this message loud and clear. They don't get that message from the echo chambers of Washing D.C. circles. They haven't gotten the message from electoral failures or successes. What will it take? The message is clear; return this country to sound and reasonable fiscal Conservatism. Reverse 70 years of Progressive nonsense.

    I have a few proposals:

    1. Slash government regulation. The federal register is nearly 80,000 pages long. Cut it to a less but still ridiculous 40,000 pages of anti-job growth regulation.
    2. Reverse entitlement programs. Get this country back to the days when charity was exactly that and not mandatory tax payments to Nanny Mc Government. It is NOT the job of the government to steal taxpayer dollars to play government charity. Charity is given, not taken.
    3. Stop listening to liberal media's ideas of "acceptable or electable" candidates. That mentality gave us establishment acceptable candidates that resulted in the current administration. An administration that effectively shut out Republican voices for two years while they rammed their Marxist utopian ideas down our throats in the secrecy of their dens.
    4. Develop clear issues that are non-negotiable. Have our nominee agree to those ideas regardless of political consideration. Cowardice at this point will result in defeat and the end of the GOP. Voters will not be excited to vote Democrat lite when they can vote for the full leaded version.
    5. Put forth a principled Conservative candidate that will listen to the real America, not the entitlement minded, inner city, metropolitan leaches that don't value our country or its ideas. The real Americans are waiting for leadership. We are tired of Socialism and leadership by teleprompter.

    Sincerely,
    AmPat
    I think the letter identifies some traits about conservatism that may be its downfall.

    For one thing, if the Republicans do not reach out the the moderates then they wiill lose and choke on their beloved principles. Politics involves the art of give and take, something the Republicans have forgotten, and we are getting nowhere with needed policy changes from the Congress.

    Non negotiable issues sound nice, but how many will sell? Isn't it better to take half a loaf than none at all?

    A conservative that will listen to who? Real America seems to be more liberal as the years go by. Don't count on the bigots and the zealots to save the day for your candidate.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    I think the letter identifies some traits about conservatism that may be its downfall.

    For one thing, if the Republicans do not reach out the the moderates then they wiill lose and choke on their beloved principles. Politics involves the art of give and take, something the Republicans have forgotten, and we are getting nowhere with needed policy changes from the Congress.

    Non negotiable issues sound nice, but how many will sell? Isn't it better to take half a loaf than none at all?

    A conservative that will listen to who? Real America seems to be more liberal as the years go by. Don't count on the bigots and the zealots to save the day for your candidate.
    BS and double BS. Conservative values will work. No RINO will win against O Blah Blah. This nation is fed up with liberalism and has seen its destructive nature clearly over the last three years. Reagan won on solid principle and he didn't worry about that delicate "moderate" vote. He stood on principle and the next GOP candidate had better do the same. Moderates won't go for another round of Marxist O Blah Blah and Conservatives won't go for a RINO.
    Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
    C. S. Lewis
    Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
    Ayn Rand
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerlifter181 View Post
    1) "Repeals ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, and Sarbanes- Oxley. Mandates REINS-style requirements for thorough congressional review and authorization before implementing any new regulations issued by bureaucrats. President Paul will also cancel all onerous regulations previously issued by Executive Order."

    2) "Honors our promise to our seniors and veterans, while allowing young workers to opt out. Block grants Medicaid and other welfare programs to allow States the flexibility and ingenuity they need to solve their own unique problems without harming those currently relying on the programs."

    3) Don't think I need to justify this one.

    4) Or this one.

    5) "America is the greatest nation in human history. Our respect for individual liberty, free markets, and limited constitutional government produced the strongest, most prosperous country in the world. But, we have drifted far from our founding principles, and America is in crisis.
    Ron Paul’s “Restore America” plan slams on the brakes and puts America on a return to constitutional government. It is bold but achievable. Through the bully pulpit of the presidency, the power of the Veto, and, most importantly, the united voice of freedom-loving Americans, we can implement fundamental reforms"

    Check it out: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issue...store-america/

    A lot of folks here love to hate on Ron Paul but the simple facts are:

    1) he's the only candidate that has proposed serious and bold reform to fiscal and legislative policy.

    2) he's the only candidate with a record consistent enough to be trusted to carry out his campaign promises.

    3) contrary to popular belief: Ron Paul is not and has not ever been a 9/11 Truther and I defy anyone here to produce evidence that he is, Ron Paul believes in non-interventionism and free trade not isolationism.


    I'm not here to ram my beliefs down anyone's throat but these are points you should consider as you choose a new candidate
    What is a 911 Truther?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    What is a 911 Truther?
    Somebody that thinks our own government was behind the 9-11 attacks.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansel View Post
    I think the letter identifies some traits about conservatism that may be its downfall.

    For one thing, if the Republicans do not reach out to the moderates then they will lose and choke on their beloved principles........................ Isn't it better to take half a loaf than none at all.............
    What is this "reach out" about which you speak?;) Isn't that sort of the same as the "bipartisanship" that the Democrats claim is now starving the country? I think it is. Conservative principles are conservative principles and they are proved to bring results. Compromising conservative principles in the name of "reaching out" bastardizes the very foundation which makes up a conservative.

    Got an idea: Instead of conservatives "reaching out", why don't the liberals "grow up"? The end result would be the same.
     

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