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    There is a diminished middle because the Democratic Party has moved so far left as to espouse socialism and flirt with communism, holding up radical Leftists as folk heroes. The reaction by the Republican Party and the Conservative-leaning voters that make up the majority of the Independent block has been to solidify in opposition to the radicals that wish to turn America into a Soviet-style society.

    The radicals who the state-run media claim are social heroes:






    AND...


    Patriotic Americans who the state-run media claim are dangerous, violent, racist radicals:






    You do the math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    They appear to expect his bubble to be burst by the so-called sex scandal. My opinion is the jury is still out on that.
    Exactly what did Cain do, what specifically happened to cause the allegations?
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    The Economist is centrist. It has a pretty neoliberal (conservative, free-trade, globalization, open markets, ect) stance.

    But I agree they may have jumped the gun on Cain's "fade." They appear to expect his bubble to be burst by the so-called sex scandal. My opinion is the jury is still out on that.
    How is neoliberalism "centrist"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Articulate_Ape View Post
    There is a diminished middle because the Democratic Party has moved so far left as to espouse socialism and flirt with communism, holding up radical Leftists as folk heroes. The reaction by the Republican Party and the Conservative-leaning voters that make up the majority of the Independent block has been to solidify in opposition to the radicals that wish to turn America into a Soviet-style society.
    The Democratic Party gets billions of dollars from wallstreet. Obama got more financial support from wallstreet than any president in history.

    Their actions reflect this perfectly, they are a corporatist party who are just a little more tolerant with gays, that is all.

    The Democrats do not reflect any departure from the corporate plutocracy at all.


    The radicals who the state-run media claim are social heroes:
    Big American Media is entirely corporate-owned.

    There are few non-commercial news outlets with any viewership in the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The Democratic Party gets billions of dollars from wallstreet. Obama got more financial support from wallstreet than any president in history.

    Their actions reflect this perfectly, they are a corporatist party who are just a little more tolerant with gays, that is all.

    The Democrats do not reflect any departure from the corporate plutocracy at all.




    Big American Media is entirely corporate-owned.

    There are few non-commercial news outlets with any viewership in the US.

    Which is the dog and which is the tail, WWW? The answer to that is not so simple.
    "The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Articulate_Ape View Post
    Which is the dog and which is the tail, WWW? The answer to that is not so simple.
    I would say wealth is power. I agree the answer isn't the simplist, but this is precisely the sort of discussion I think we should be having.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    I would say wealth is power. I agree the answer isn't the simplist, but this is precisely the sort of discussion I think we should be having.
    Unfortunately, you and your fellow pinkos limit your discussion to wealth redistribution rather than the distribution of opportunity and personal accountability back to the People where it belongs. You choose the easy "Robin Hood" fairy tale methodology in your attempt to treat the symptoms rather than the disease that is ailing our Republic.
    "The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    The Economist .........But I agree they may have jumped the gun on Cain's "fade." They appear to expect his bubble to be burst by the so-called sex scandal. My opinion is the jury is still out on that.....
    WHAT??! How dare you be reasonable, you, you... Reasonablist!
    That's the whole problem with this website...can't even get a fight started.....
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    WHAT??! How dare you be reasonable, you, you... Reasonablist!
    That's the whole problem with this website...can't even get a fight started.....
    He has an occasional flash of sanity, and then he goes blank again!
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The Democratic Party gets billions of dollars from wallstreet. Obama got more financial support from wallstreet than any president in history.

    Their actions reflect this perfectly, they are a corporatist party who are just a little more tolerant with gays, that is all.

    The Democrats do not reflect any departure from the corporate plutocracy at all.

    Big American Media is entirely corporate-owned.

    There are few non-commercial news outlets with any viewership in the US.
    You act as if one cannot be a leftist/socialist and a plutocrat. In every communist/socialist/progressive state, there has been a pampered elite which lived better than everybody else, by virtue of political connections and power. The difference between a bureaucrat who lives large while running a state-owned monopoly and a crony capitalist who benefits from having his pet politician restrict his rivals' access to markets through political machinations is only a matter of semantics.
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    He has an occasional flash of sanity, and then he goes blank again!
    Yeah, it's frustrating.
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