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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...743,full.story

    Cain accuser has history of financial troubles, legal squabbles
    Her father, fiance say they stand with her

    By Lisa Black, John Chase and Lolly Bowean, Chicago Tribune reporters

    10:03 p.m. CST, November 7, 2011
    The emerging portrait of Herman Cain's most recent accuser shows a suburban homemaker with a history of financial and legal troubles, but one who supporters say has the guts to do the right thing.

    Sharon Bialek, 50, is the fourth woman and the first publicly to accuse the Republican presidential hopeful of sexual harassment. In a dramatic news conference Monday in New York, Bialek, a former employee of the National Restaurant Association Educational Foundation, said she had sought Cain's help in finding a new job in July 1997 shortly after the organization had fired her.

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    Records show she twice has filed for personal bankruptcy, first in 1991 and then again in 2001. In the latter case, she claimed $5,700 in assets and more than $36,000 in liabilities. Among the creditors seeking payment was a management firm demanding back rent of $4,500, four credit card companies and a lawyer asking for his legal fees.

    After the case was discharged, she accused a former boyfriend of harassing her for repayment of a loan, court records in the bankruptcy case show. Bialek borrowed $4,500 from William Concha, though Concha now believes she had no intention of paying him back, according to his brother, Mario.

    Reached Monday night in Spain, William Concha declined comment.

    At least two liens have been filed against Bialek, according to records from the Cook County recorder of deeds.

    The IRS filed a tax lien against her in 2009 for nearly $5,200. In August, the Illinois Department of Revenue claimed Bialek owed the state more than $4,300, including penalties and interest, relating to income taxes from 2004, according to county records.

    Court records also show creditors took legal action against her during the past decade, including at least one lawsuit filed in Cook County.
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    yeah... I SOOO believe her story
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    I'll bet you believed Paula Jones, even though she used her brief time in the spotlight to pose for Playboy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    .....yeah... I SOOO believe her story
    The problem Mrs Starbuck and I had with her story is her description of Cain's opening move. I've made my share of opening moves over the years - although not lately - and I never opened by grabbing for her genitals and pulling her head toward my lap!

    I mean whatever happened to the old, "first he kept touching my arm; then he put his arm around me; then he (YUCK!) tried to kiss me!" , stuff? Nope. We're led to believe that he went from discussing whatever to going for the "Full Monte". Didn't need none of that kissing stuff, I guess.

    Aside from being a 50 year old flake, though, she is convincing. Be real interested in what Mr Cain has to say. He needs to say the right thing, but I don't now what that is.

    Good Luck, Mr Cain! Do it right, because we sure need you here in America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I'll bet you believed Paula Jones, even though she used her brief time in the spotlight to pose for Playboy.
    only believed her story because Clinton had a PROVEN history being a womanizer going all the way back to his time as Gov of Arkansas and probably before.

    Cain has a bunch of allegations that don't amount to more than a hill of beans, two of which had nothing to do with sexual harassment. Not only that but this Bialec woman doesn't act like someone who was sexually assaulted by him, she freaking hugged him at a TEA Party rally last month!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    The problem Mrs Starbuck and I had with her story is her description of Cain's opening move. I've made my share of opening moves over the years - although not lately - and I never opened by grabbing for her genitals and pulling her head toward my lap!

    I mean whatever happened to the old, "first he kept touching my arm; then he put his arm around me; then he (YUCK!) tried to kiss me!" , stuff? Nope. We're led to believe that he went from discussing whatever to going for the "Full Monte". Didn't need none of that kissing stuff, I guess.

    Aside from being a 50 year old flake, though, she is convincing. Be real interested in what Mr Cain has to say. He needs to say the right thing, but I don't now what that is.

    Good Luck, Mr Cain! Do it right, because we sure need you here in America.

    convincing? right... if anything it smacks of HER making the moves, grabbing his hand and putting it between her legs and putting her head into his lap for a bj...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starbuck View Post
    The problem Mrs Starbuck and I had with her story is her description of Cain's opening move. I've made my share of opening moves over the years - although not lately - and I never opened by grabbing for her genitals and pulling her head toward my lap!
    There is a difference between making an opening move and taking what you want. I'm guessing that you were raised to be, and were expected to be a gentleman. There is no reason to project that on Cain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    only believed her story because Clinton had a PROVEN history being a womanizer going all the way back to his time as Gov of Arkansas and probably before.

    Cain has a bunch of allegations that don't amount to more than a hill of beans, two of which had nothing to do with sexual harassment. Not only that but this Bialec woman doesn't act like someone who was sexually assaulted by him, she freaking hugged him at a TEA Party rally last month!
    There is a huge difference between being a "womanizer" and being an aggressor. A womanizer is an heterosexual male who is always on the make. A sexual aggressor crosses the line from invitation to assault.
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    I am not taking a side in this particular imbroglio (I find it all distasteful to begin with and an indication of our Media's debasement of the American political process) but I think we can see why the others did not want their names used. The feeding frenzy is awful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    only believed her story because Clinton had a PROVEN history being a womanizer going all the way back to his time as Gov of Arkansas and probably before.

    Cain has a bunch of allegations that don't amount to more than a hill of beans, two of which had nothing to do with sexual harassment. Not only that but this Bialec woman doesn't act like someone who was sexually assaulted by him, she freaking hugged him at a TEA Party rally last month!
    There was a credible allegation of rape against Clinton so please there is no comparison to Cain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I'll bet you believed Paula Jones, even though she used her brief time in the spotlight to pose for Playboy.
    I might not have believed Jones either, if it weren't for Kathleen Willey, Gennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, Juanita Broaddrick and Elizabeth Ward Gracen.
    • Jones' story was corroborated by an Arkansas State Trooper.
    • Kathleen Willey's story was corroborated by a witness who she told of the incident at the time, a nurse who treated her injuries and by letters asking for the meeting with Clinton (and Clinton's responses).
    • Gennifer Flowers had Clinton on tape.
    • Monica Lewinsky had DNA evidence on her blue dress.
    • Juanita Broaddrick stated that she had been raped by Clinton under oath.
    • Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Miss America in 1982, told a friend, Judy Stokes, that Gracen had been in tears when she said that the sex she and Clinton had was something Gracen "did not want to happen." Gracen refused to testify in the Paula Jones trial.
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