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  1. #1 Now I want to tell you about the poor bastard in the hospital bed beside me 
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    Good Grief ThomWV...

    Now Thom was supposed to be in the hospital for some dramatic condition which I can't recall now but I think he only had a 50/50 shot. Well...no surprise, he made it. Sooooo...


    ThomWV (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-19-11 11:20 AM
    Original message Now I want to tell you about the poor bastard in the hospital bed beside me

    Our health care system, while as good as can be found if you have access, can be the most frightening thing there is for those who aren't blessed with good fortune.

    You can go read about my recent hospital experience if you like, but this post isn't about me. Its about the poor bastard that was in the bed beside me.

    They wheeled this guy into the room tuesday morning, the curtain between us held back nothing. I was 1 day head of him in the system, I was the old pro. Here's what the guy's deal was. He woke up monday and although he had to he could not pee. All day he couldn't pee. In the evening he finally did - he peed blood, blood, and more blood. He called 911 and was taken to the local (medium sized city) hospital. They told him they couldn't do what he needed and wished him luck as they sped him on up the chain.

    The guy had no job. He had got laid off two years ago from his job running a fork-lift at a medium sized industrial company. He had no money, he had no insurance. He was also divorced and living alone. He had a daughter but she was not likely to show up in aid, she had serious problems of her own. Tests were done and results came back. He needed to have one of his kidney's, or what cancer had left of it, out and it had to come out right now.

    And so there the poor bastard was. He had nothing, he had no where to go, nothing at all to fall back on, and now out of nowhere he had a medical emergency that would certainly take his life. The only thing between him and a paper's funeral was the charity of others.

    And this was a nice guy. He was a hard-working guy too. He did what he was supposed to do, he played by all the rules, and there he was on the bed pissing blood and dieing. And how in hell could this be? Why had we, as a society, just abandoned this fellow?

    Well, we didn't. They to a team of administrators in there and quickly got him into every program they could find that might stand a chance of helping him. They got enough on paper that he could be operated on and so yesterday after a full day's of surgery on thursday, he was still alive. But I've got to ask, how on earth could we have a system capable of doing so much good but that this fellow, who wasn't out there looking for a handout and wasn't working any system for anything that it was worth found himself so far outside of the world of care? This guy was just hours away from being tossed on the trash pile.

    Fer christ's sakes, if there is anything on this earth we have to take care of, other than our murderous wars, this has to be it. There is no excuse for what passes as a health care system in this country so long as it is not completely inclusive and paid for completely from the public trust. Nothing else will do.

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    Let me see if I understand this: An unemployed man is admitted to a hospital with a life threatening condition, the administrators pull every string that they can and get him the care that he needs, and this idiot is still complaining about our health care system? I think that I'd rather piss blood than share a room with a DU member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Let me see if I understand this: An unemployed man is admitted to a hospital with a life threatening condition, the administrators pull every string that they can and get him the care that he needs, and this idiot is still complaining about our health care system?
    Shush. He got cake instead of pudding for dessert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Shush. He got cake instead of pudding for dessert.
    Cake, instead of pudding? Those... Bastards!!! :D
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    I can't see the complaint either. The guy needed care and surgery, he got it all. So what is the complaint?

    With socialized medicine, a bureaucrat would have run him through a cost/benefit analysis and he'd have died right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsycatlover View Post
    I can't see the complaint either. The guy needed care and surgery, he got it all. So what is the complaint?

    With socialized medicine, a bureaucrat would have run him through a cost/benefit analysis and he'd have died right away.
    Or he would have waited for months and months and died anyway.

    There are lots of things that are done for charity patients in this country, including special programs and complete write-offs.
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    They are arguing that the fact that it worked out for this guy is an anomoly. Perhaps they should start with a better example than "this success story is proof that the system doesn't work because a lot of other people wouldn't have received care. We think."
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelsean View Post
    They are arguing that the fact that it worked out for this guy is an anomoly. Perhaps they should start with a better example than "this success story is proof that the system doesn't work because a lot of other people wouldn't have received care. We think."
    Exactly. If you are going to complain about the system, then cite a failure, not a success.
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    What an idiot I am! I try to be compassionate and wish this S.O.B. well on his surgery, the mutha gets through it and pisses and moans about someone else???? Last. Time.

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