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    WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-27-11 10:39 AM
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    Occupy Wall Street And Homelessness: Millions Spent To Evict Camps, While Cutting Shelter Funds

    Tyler Kingkade, Hayley Miller, and Saki Knafo - HuffPo
    First Posted: 11/27/11 08:58 AM ET Updated: 11/27/11 09:01 AM ET

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    As cities around the country have swept Occupy Wall Street camps from their plazas and parks in recent weeks, a number of mayors and city officials have argued that by providing shelter to the homeless, the camps are endangering the public and even the homeless themselves. Yet in many of those cities, services for the homeless are severely underfunded. The cities have spent millions of dollars to police and evict the protesters, but they've been shutting down shelters and enacting laws to prohibit homeless from sleeping overnight in public.

    In Oakland, Atlanta, Denver and Portland, Ore., there are at least two homeless people for every open bed in the shelter system, according to the most recent data from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. In Salt Lake City, Utah, and Chapel Hill, N.C. -- two other cities that have evicted protesters from their encampments -- things are better but far from ideal. In Chapel Hill, according to the HUD study, there are 121 beds for 135 homeless people, and in Salt Lake City, 1,627 for 1,968.

    Heather Maria Johnson, a civil rights attorney at the National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty, said most cities in the U.S. lack adequate affordable housing, emergency or transitional housing, or other social services for people who are either homeless or are in danger of losing their homes. "This was true before the current economic crisis and remains true today, particularly in areas that have cut social services due to budget concerns," Johnson said.

    According to HUD, job losses and foreclosures helped push more than 170,000 families into homeless shelters in 2009, up nearly 30 percent from 2007. Of course, those are some of the same problems that have inspired people to protest.

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    More (by City): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/27/occupy-wall-st...
    Yes, and now thanks to OWS cities will have less to spend on homeless shelters and a whole host of things.

    Oh no!! Someone tells the truth and DUers ignore him/her as usual.
    The Last Blue Dog (15 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-27-11 10:57 AM
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    1. Local governments cannot afford the millions in police overtime and additional municipal services.
    The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts)
    Nov-27-11 11:01 AM
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    2. Yes,they should leave 99% alone to protest in peace and direct

    their resources to the needy among us.
    The Last Blue Dog (15 posts)
    Sun Nov-27-11 12:14 PM
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    8. Illegal camping, blocking traffic, harassing businesses, public urination and defecation and

    vandalism are not the actions of peaceful people. Nor are they classified as "speech."

    At one point a man stood and asked, "Why has there been no official position of non-violence?" The question fell like a drop of water, spreading in rings throughout the crowd.

    "Why has there been no official position of non-violence?"

    "Why has there been no official position of non-violence?"

    Twice the question was repeated by the crowd before the man spoke again. "In the fight against tyranny, it's time to draw the line," he said, "To fight violence with non-violence." The crowd erupted in cheers, but immediately someone stood to offer a different position, "I think the debate about what constitutes violence and what constitutes non-violence will have to wait," the man said, "I myself will not tell people they are wrong or right for what I believe."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/turnstyle/issue-of-violen...
    bettyellen (1000+ posts)
    Sun Nov-27-11 11:40 AM
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    4. why do they even need all the police? they're not protecting anyone!
    The Last Blue Dog (15 posts)
    Sun Nov-27-11 12:31 PM
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    9. In order for OWS to be taken seriously, it must advocate for, and maintain peace.

    Descent into violence would be an utter failure, and it would give the government the excuse it needs to end all Occupy protests.

    That's why Occupy protesters must resist violence at every turn. They must resist bloodshed and even be willing to be bloodied themselves without striking back. The emotional power of such imagery would turn the entire nation against the government and would rally millions more to join the cause.

    The reverse also applies: If protesters become violent, the imagery will turn the entire nation against the OWS movement.
    coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Sun Nov-27-11 11:06 AM
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    3. Here's what a scumsucker Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa is. In his

    offer to Occupy Los Angeles to entice it to leave its camp at City Hall (an offer rescinded within 12 hours of being made and before OLA could even officially respond to it), Vilaaraigosa offered to open 100 new shelter beds for the homeless.

    Imagine that. Villagraigosa had 100 shelter beds available that he was holding onto like some fucking ace-in-the-hole for use as a political bargaining chip.

    Why am I flashing on SS Oberguppenfuhrer Hans Frank? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Frank

    Villaraigosa makes me want to :puke:
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    Yes, and now thanks to OWS cities will have less to spend on homeless shelters and a whole host of things.

    Oh no!! Someone tells the truth and DUers ignore him/her as usual.
    If the OWS protesters really cared, they'd have donated their sleeping bags to the homeless shelters and protested by voting, like the TEA party did.
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    In actual dollars, President Obama’s $4.4 trillion in deficit spending in just three years is 37 percent higher than the previous record of $3.2 trillion (held by President George W. Bush) in deficit spending for an entire presidency. It’s no small feat to demolish an 8-year record in just 3 years.

    Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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    It's Cloward Piven in action. Overwhelm the resources until they are bankrupt.
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