Why do we work harder than Germans?

[Articulate_Ape]

The people I've known and loved all of my life have been working people in America, my home. Why would I want to leave? Wouldn't it be better to fight to make this nation a better place for the working people I love?

I'm betting that there are a shitload of Germans, as well as other Europeans, look west (i.e. the US) for a place to escape the "utopia" you want us to import from their failed nations. I predict that Europe will be immersed in chaos and war (again) within this decade. A facsimile of the same will happen here, but only because you and your ilk have attempted to install the same model here for decades with an unfortunate level success.

Times they are a'changing.

[Teetop]

In germany workers control half of the company that they work for, giving them a sense of ownership and shared responsibility.

Bull. Shit. I need a cite for this bullshit. I was in Germany in the early 80's.


I call bullshit, on this bullshit.


The Germans are some engineering mutha effas!

[Wei Wu Wei]

Bull. Shit. I need a cite for this bullshit. I was in Germany in the early 80's.


I call bullshit, on this bullshit.


The Germans are some engineering mutha effas!

google german codetermination. i don't know the name of the law in it's german form but it's effectively a "codetermination law". it principally applies to larger companies but there is a version in place for medium sized companies as well.

[Teetop]

google german codetermination. i don't know the name of the law in it's german form but it's effectively a "codetermination law". it principally applies to larger companies but there is a version in place for medium sized companies as well.

YOU google it, fool! I asked for a cite.

I could google German laziness and two million hits pop up. It doesn't make it so....

[Tipsycatlover]

The Germans are a different people. They work, they take pride in being productive. Americans take pride in how much they can get away with. If Americans are in control of their company, it's three hour lunch breaks and the right to smoke dope on the job.

[Arroyo_Doble]

I'm betting that there are a shitload of Germans, as well as other Europeans, look west (i.e. the US) for a place to escape the "utopia" you want us to import from their failed nations. I predict that Europe will be immersed in chaos and war (again) within this decade. A facsimile of the same will happen here, but only because you and your ilk have attempted to install the same model here for decades with an unfortunate level success.

Times they are a'changing.

That's a pretty hot sports opinion there.

[Molon Labe]

In germany workers control half of the company that they work for, giving them a sense of ownership and shared responsibility.

that's fine if the said company has a "choice" in doing that. There are plenty of small compnanies in the US that operate like this. The problem comes down to it being mandatory for property and business owners to do this.

[Adam Wood]

In germany workers control half of the company that they work for, giving them a sense of ownership and shared responsibility.

Bull. Shit. I need a cite for this bullshit. I was in Germany in the early 80's.


I call bullshit, on this bullshit.


The Germans are some engineering mutha effas!

google german codetermination. i don't know the name of the law in it's german form but it's effectively a "codetermination law". it principally applies to larger companies but there is a version in place for medium sized companies as well.

that's fine if the said company has a "choice" in doing that. There are plenty of small compnanies in the US that operate like this. The problem comes down to it being mandatory for property and business owners to do this.

Wee wee is spouting off without having his facts straight. Everyone act surprised. Mitbestimmungsgesetz does not say that workers control or own half the company. The law says that larger companies must allow a less-than-controlling interest in the board of directors be elected by the workers. Wildly different from what Wee wee claimed.

[BadCat]

Yeah, let's just add this to our list of GREAT GERMAN IDEAS...

Concentration camps
Ethnic cleansing
Nerve gas
White supremacy

[Wei Wu Wei]

Wee wee is spouting off without having his facts straight. Everyone act surprised. Mitbestimmungsgesetz does not say that workers control or own half the company. The law says that larger companies must allow a less-than-controlling interest in the board of directors be elected by the workers. Wildly different from what Wee wee claimed.

Workers are allowed to elect half of the board in large companies. This is the same type of control that stock-owners have in the US.