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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Based on what reasoning? He gave the order to overthrow Qadafi when there was nothing to be politically gained, and quite frankly he had a ton to lose on the call.

    You think he'd just sit there and dither when Iran cut off 1/6th of the worlds oil supply? You buy the bulk packages of tin foil at Sams Club don't you?
    A tin foil hat because she does not support the biggest socialist we have ever had for president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Based on what reasoning?
    Based on the fact that when it comes to an actual shooting war that might hurt him politically he takes MONTHS to make a decision and even then he doesn't listen to his Generals?

    Look at how long it took for him to make a decision about more troops in Afghanistan.

    THAT is the reasoning.


    He gave the order to overthrow Qadafi when there was nothing to be politically gained, and quite frankly he had a ton to lose on the call.
    Obama had nothing to lose by supporting the Muslim Brotherhood rebellion in Libya. No U.S. lives at stake. Everything done on our part from the air and at great distances from any real danger. There was no political risk whatsoever. It was the perfect liberal war. The type they love to support where nothing can be pinned on them come election time and THEY think it bolsters them with us military types.


    You think he'd just sit there and dither when Iran cut off 1/6th of the worlds oil supply?
    Yes...I think he would. It's the perfect political move the go "see...see why we need to move to green energy!".

    It would allow him to accelerate his push to move to to "green" energy PLUS have the added advantage of picking up political points with his radical leftist base.

    I could see him allowing it to happen very easily.


    You buy the bulk packages of tin foil at Sams Club don't you?
    AmPat makes more sense on this than you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    What did we gain in Libya? Nothing was gained, we spent money to set up another government controlled by extremists.
    That is my whole point. There was nothing there for him to gain by going into Libya. But we want to assert that when he has everything to gain, or everything to lose, he'll sit on his ass and not do a thing? It's ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    That is my whole point. There was nothing there for him to gain by going into Libya. But we want to assert that when he has everything to gain, or everything to lose, he'll sit on his ass and not do a thing? It's ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    That is my whole point. There was nothing there for him to gain by going into Libya. But we want to assert that when he has everything to gain, or everything to lose, he'll sit on his ass and not do a thing? It's ludicrous.
    Not really, it does not detract from the point that when something big really is at stake, he has problems reaching a decision. Nothing was really at stake in Libya. The groundwork for the Arab Spring so beloved of journalists, and so likely to be a long-term disaster for moderation in the Arab world, was a joint child of Bush and Obama State Department efforts, and one which predictably got out of control very quickly once initiated. There was an ideological momentum to supporting it in the delusional wings of both parties, as well as tremendous press impetus to involve ourselves.
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