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  1. #1 Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot 
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    Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-...ry?id=15285605

    Why ask permission to blast some scumbags to Hell. Good for her. One less scumbag on this planet. :D
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    Pfft, I'd call 9-1-1 and ask them if it's OK to start cleaning the blood or should I wait for the police first.
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    An 18 year old mother. Infant. Husband already died of cancer.

    It helps to recognize the symptoms. When I look at the facts of this case I see someone who was a abandoned long ago, and learned that she, alone, is the only one she can truly rely upon. She had the presence of mind to quiet the baby, call 911, and then shoot the bad guy. I was once 17 and alone in the world. It was no fun. God Bless her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGrouse View Post
    Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-...ry?id=15285605

    Why ask permission to blast some scumbags to Hell.
    She's polite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedGrouse View Post
    Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-...ry?id=15285605

    Why ask permission to blast some scumbags to Hell. Good for her. One less scumbag on this planet. :D
    Maybe she thought the 911 operator knew some things about how the law would handle it. I hope they don't try to arrest her or the operator.
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    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. More than twenty minutes, in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. More than twenty minutes, in this case.
    In LA, it's more like 40 minutes, provided they actually show up.

    Edited to add: The Okla woman is not being charged:

    http://news.yahoo.com/okla-mom-wont-...031645004.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    In LA, it's more like 40 minutes, provided they actually show up.

    Edited to add: The Okla woman is not being charged:

    http://news.yahoo.com/okla-mom-wont-...031645004.html
    The accomplice is being charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death instead. I don't think that makes sense. He should definitely be charged with burglary for breaking in and manslaughter for the death, or maybe 2nd degree murder instead. I thought 1st degree was only for premeditated murder, which this was not. I wouldn't want the guy to get a light sentence because the charges brought against him are bogus.

    Of course the woman should not be charged with anything, she might even be entitled for psychological damages from the accomplice for being forced to take a life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The accomplice is being charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death instead. I don't think that makes sense. He should definitely be charged with burglary for breaking in and manslaughter for the death, or maybe 2nd degree murder instead. I thought 1st degree was only for premeditated murder, which this was not. I wouldn't want the guy to get a light sentence because the charges brought against him are bogus.

    Of course the woman should not be charged with anything, she might even be entitled for psychological damages from the accomplice for being forced to take a life.
    The first degree is likely a plan to get him to plea bargain down, you are right, it doesn't fit the legal description of the crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The accomplice is being charged with 1st degree murder for his role in the death instead. I don't think that makes sense. He should definitely be charged with burglary for breaking in and manslaughter for the death, or maybe 2nd degree murder instead. I thought 1st degree was only for premeditated murder, which this was not. I wouldn't want the guy to get a light sentence because the charges brought against him are bogus.

    Of course the woman should not be charged with anything, she might even be entitled for psychological damages from the accomplice for being forced to take a life.
    In the eyes of the law, the pre-meditation is not for the murder, but for going to the house with the intent of committing a burgle. IOW, because he planned to go to the house, and he knew that what they were doing could potentially result in bodily harm or death, he as much as planned the killing.

    It's a pretty long-standing legal precept, actually. We just don't often hear about it.
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