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    (Scott) Walker Wins Ruling, Forcing State to Vet Recall Petition Signatures - FDL
    Walker Wins Ruling, Forcing State to Vet Recall Petition Signatures
    By: David Dayen - FDL
    Friday January 6, 2012 2:24 pm

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    In case youíre catching up to Walkergate, which actually netted two former staffers yesterday, Capper has you covered. This is a case of a Republican Governor who cannot find anyone but common criminals to staff his campaigns and executive offices. And as Capper writes, itís not even close to over; the John Doe investigation still has a number of loose ends to tie up.

    While weíre waiting for that to clear up, the Governor got a win in state court today, relating to the imminent recall election. Before the recall of Walker, the onus was on the party being recalled to identify and screen out duplicate or fake signatures on the recall petitions. This onerous, time-consuming process has now been thrown back on the Government Accountability Board, the overseer of elections in the state.

    Adding in signatures for several other Republicans targeted for recall, including Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, the board could be looking at 1.5 million signatures, GAB director Kevin Kennedy said.

    Kennedy testified that his staff has looked into the option of creating a database and entering names by hand, a process that could take eight weeks. Hiring a vendor whose software could read information from scanned petitions could speed the effort but cost about $94,000, he said.

    After the hearing, Kennedy said the agency would review the decision and figure out the best way to comply. He also said he plans to ask the Legislature for additional money, enough to cover about $650,000 in initial cost estimates plus anything further as a result of Thursdayís ruling.


    Iím sure that big spender Scott Walker will get the legislature to spring for the expense.

    I think the courts may have gotten this one right, actually. Weeding out duplicate signatures feels like the role of the arbiter of recall elections rather than the campaigns. But we donít really have guidelines here for compliance, and so the GAB will have to basically wing it, with massive amounts of signatures to verify. You can definitely see that getting unwieldy.

    The judge in the case, J. Mac Davis, was a former Wisconsin Republican state lawmaker. And check out who argued the case for the Walker Administration:

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    More: http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/01/...on-signatures/


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    1. This will go to appeal and is seriously hypocritical when one of their talking points today is

    the burden of the cost of the recall on taxpayers. They've made this "IT'S NINE MILLION DOLLARS!!" a lead story in every local newscast. Fear not, DPW has responded:

    The $9 million cost of a statewide recall election is great, but the cost of doing nothing is far greater. This undertaking is the biggest investment in the future of our state and families we can make.

    It would take more than 7 recall elections to equal the cost of Walker's tax increase on seniors and working families. It would take more than 11 recalls to equal the tuition hike Walker foisted on University of Wisconsin-System students and their families. And Walker's $2.3 billion in tax giveaways to out-of-state corporations and the super-rich would pay for more than 255 recall elections.

    Wisconsin simply cannot afford Scott Walker any longer.

    http://www.facebook.com/WisDems/posts/352565838103591
    So because the GOP doesn't like the burden of the cost of the recall to the state they are supposed to allow Democrats to cheat with duplicate and fake signatures and not demand that due diligence be done once liberals initiate the recall.
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    3. If they were not able to shop for their judge this would not have happened.

    And no the court did not get this right, this is a ridiculously stupid ruling. The reason the burden is on the candidate defending themselves from recall is that ensures that the state does not get shouldered with the blame and potential lawsuits when signatures that should have been thrown out are missed. If the state makes even the slightest error, which they will considering they have 700,000 signatures to go through and that volume is nearly impossible to review with 100% accuracy, Walker will try to invalidate the whole process. He will try to make it look like a mistake that allowed 5 bad signatures is the same thing as a mistake that allowed 500,000 bad signatures. This allows him to point fingers that will make the recall process more costly and difficult, it was a horrendously bad decision from a partisan judge hand picked by Walker.
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    5. This Was Expected...

    The only way Snotty avoids getting tossed out is by delaying the recall or having it declared "unconstitutional". He's banking that he's got enough friends in the judiciary to take the steam out of the recall bandwagon and run the clock out...stalling any possible election. Looks like he found a friend...
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    I'm sorry, remind me again who wanted to usurp the people's chosen governor by a bogus recall?
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    And then we have Maryland where Case de Maryland tried to challenge the signature on the petitions for referendum of the bill giving in state tuition to illegal aliens.

    Make up your mind. How do you want it to be? If you don't trust the campaign to vet, and don't trust the opposition to vet, and don't think the state should vet, then it would appear that you really don't like referendum.... but I suspect that you do like some referendums. Those which strip Californians of their marriage rights comes to mind. Gee, there is the solution: let the Mormons do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    Those which strip Californians of their marriage rights comes to mind.
    Who is stopping you? If you want to hook up with a guy and raise a family of butt nuggets go right ahead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    And then we have Maryland where Case de Maryland tried to challenge the signature on the petitions for referendum of the bill giving in state tuition to illegal aliens.

    Make up your mind. How do you want it to be? If you don't trust the campaign to vet, and don't trust the opposition to vet, and don't think the state should vet, then it would appear that you really don't like referendum.... but I suspect that you do like some referendums. Those which strip Californians of their marriage rights comes to mind. Gee, there is the solution: let the Mormons do it.
    Who voted for gay marriage? Was that on the ballot? I believe the biggest difference is the attitude of the WI idiots who got beat in an election and don't accept the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    I'm sorry, remind me again who wanted to usurp the people's chosen governor by a bogus recall?
    Who? Why, none other than the party of ACORN, where bogus signatures are more common than, um, acorns. lol
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