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  1. #1 Romney and Bain Capital, the rest of the story... 
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    http://www.politickerny.com/2012/01/...g-mitt-romney/
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    [Randy Johnson] described how he worked at a factory making office supplies owned by Smith Corona, which facing bankruptcy, sold his plant to another company, Ampad, that has recently been acquired by Bain Capital. Ampad promptly fired all of the workers at the plant, and then re-hired most of them. Since they were a union shop, and over half of the employees had been re-hired, the new owners were forced to recognize the union. They tried to renegotiate the contract, but the union eventually decided to go on strike, so Ampad shuttered the once-profitable factory.

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    The DNC, [Johnson] says, pays for his flights and for a hotel room, and he needled the DNC operative following him around for making him pay for tolls and buy lunch as they travelled around New Hampshire.

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    Well, well, well.........:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    Smith Corona could not transition past typewriters and became obsolete, they faced bankruptcy because they were no longer relevant. I wonder what part this DNC jerkoff had in that?
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    The interesting thing about the recent attacks on Romney from the other Republicans in the race is that they work to paint Romney as the more conservative candidate. He is in the position of defending the free enterprise system where the only obligation he had during his time at the helm of Bain Capital was the accumulation of wealth for the shareholders. Jobs (or lack thereof) are meaningless unless they further those ends and if there are assets to be appropriated, then the Market dictates that you take them (legally, of course, though legal plunder is still plunder).

    After complaining about how the Democrats were engaging in so-called class warfare, the Republican candidates decide to dip their toes into that pool.

    Damn funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    The interesting thing about the recent attacks on Romney from the other Republicans in the race is that they work to paint Romney as the more conservative candidate.
    Not really, he is already the most beloved candidate of the hard-over Fiscal Conservatives, i.e. those who love ruthless, unregulated Capitalism and are blind to its faults, parroting BS about how the totally-powerless in a labor-surplus market have equal bargaining power with the owners over their wages, and the 'Invisible hand of the market' will make everyone prosperous.

    The Social Conservatives and Libertarian Conservatives ain't buying it, and do not regard these attacks as making Mittens look 'More Conservative,' to them it just makes him look like more of a rich elitist with no concept of the effects of his actions at the blue collar end of the stick.

    There's truth to both sides. It appears that Bain Capital did some mercy-killing, but also some plain old corporate plundering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    The interesting thing about the recent attacks on Romney from the other Republicans in the race is that they work to paint Romney as the more conservative candidate Hardly. He is in the position of defending the free enterprise system where the only obligation he had during his time at the helm of Bain Capital was the accumulation of wealth for the shareholders.Isn't that the job of a CEO? Jobs (or lack thereof) are meaningless unless they further those ends and if there are assets to be appropriated, then the Market dictates that you take them (legally, of course, though legal plunder is still plunder).

    After complaining about how the Democrats were engaging in so-called class warfare, the Republican candidates decide to dip their toes into that pool.

    Damn funny.

    Yes, damn funny that you don't see the roll the union played in this.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbAss Tanker View Post
    Not really, he is already the most beloved candidate of the hard-over Fiscal Conservatives, i.e. those who love ruthless, unregulated Capitalism and are blind to its faults, parroting BS about how the totally-powerless in a labor-surplus market have equal bargaining power with the owners over their wages, and the 'Invisible hand of the market' will make everyone prosperous.
    Yea. Conservatives.

    The Social Conservatives and Libertarian Conservatives ain't buying it, and do not regard these attacks as making Mittens look 'More Conservative,' to them it just makes him look like more of a rich elitist with no concept of the effects of his actions at the blue collar end of the stick.
    The blue collar end (or so-called Reagan Democrats) have been getting the shaft for over three decades. Sooner or later, they are going to figure out it isn't the welfare queen shafting them and you can't find enough gay boogens to save the Paul Ryans of the political world.

    Or ... maybe you can. We'll see, I suppose.

    I do admit at being surprised this line of attack is coming from Republicans. It totally undermines their Market infallibility argument and directly attacks the so-called job creators.

    There's truth to both sides. It appears that Bain Capital did some mercy-killing, but also some plain old corporate plundering.
    Right. Is that an issue with Republicans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Yea. Conservatives.
    Right. Is that an issue with Republicans?
    Since you obviously have your own definition of 'Republican' and 'Conservative' that are different from anything going on in Reality World, I really can't answer that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Yea. Conservatives.



    The blue collar end (or so-called Reagan Democrats) have been getting the shaft for over three decades. Sooner or later, they are going to figure out it isn't the welfare queen shafting them and you can't find enough gay boogens to save the Paul Ryans of the political world.

    Or ... maybe you can. We'll see, I suppose.

    I do admit at being surprised this line of attack is coming from Republicans. It totally undermines their Market infallibility argument and directly attacks the so-called job creators.



    Right. Is that an issue with Republicans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    The interesting thing about the recent attacks on Romney from the other Republicans in the race is that they work to paint Romney as the more conservative candidate. He is in the position of defending the free enterprise system where the only obligation he had during his time at the helm of Bain Capital was the accumulation of wealth for the shareholders. Jobs (or lack thereof) are meaningless unless they further those ends and if there are assets to be appropriated, then the Market dictates that you take them (legally, of course, though legal plunder is still plunder).

    After complaining about how the Democrats were engaging in so-called class warfare, the Republican candidates decide to dip their toes into that pool.

    Damn funny.
    During that period of time, it seemed that the greenmailers and company killers were working towards the accumulation of wealth for themselves and select shareholders at the expense of the small shareholders which often included the workers and retirees. That's free market capitalism, the kind that fucks over paycheck piggy bank investors like the ones one meets on bulletin boards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    The blue collar end (or so-called Reagan Democrats) have been getting the shaft for over three decades. Sooner or later, they are going to figure out it isn't the welfare queen shafting them and you can't find enough gay boogens to save the Paul Ryans of the political world.
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