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    By Dan Williams

    JERUSALEM | Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:03am EST

    (Reuters) - A senior Israeli official voiced disappointment in the Obama administration on Sunday, saying "election-year considerations" lay behind its caution over tough Iran sanctions sought by U.S. legislators.

    While Washington has been talking tougher about Iran's nuclear work and threat to block oil export routes out of the Gulf if hit with harsher sanctions, new U.S. measures adopted on December 31 gave President Barak Obama leeway on the scope of penalties on the Iranian central bank and oil exports.

    Moshe Yaalon, Israel's vice prime minister, contrasted the administration's posture to that of France and Britain, which he said "are taking a very firm stand and understand sanctions must be imposed immediately."

    "In the United States, the Senate passed a resolution, by a majority of 100-to-one, to impose these sanctions, and in the U.S. administration there is hesitation for fear of oil prices rising this year, out of election-year considerations," Yaalon told Israel Radio.

    "In that regard, this is certainly a disappointment, for now."

    The Democratic president says he is determined to deny Tehran -- which insists its nuclear programme is for peaceful needs only -- the means to develop an atom bomb. His aides cast their sanctions strategy as a bid to work collaboratively with foreign powers and win over states that import Iranian oil without triggering price-boosting shocks to energy markets.

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    The remarks by Yaalon, a member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's right-wing Likud party, appeared to jar with praise centrist Defence Minister Ehud Barak offered last month for what he described as Obama's resolve against Iran.

    Running for re-election in the face of Republicans who hold sway over big pro-Israel constituencies, Obama has sought to burnish his credentials as a friend of the Jewish state despite having frosty relations with Netanyahu.

    In a phone conversation with the prime minister on Thursday, Obama "reiterated his unshakable commitment to Israel's security," the White House said. Both sides said the leaders' discussion dealt with Iran and Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking.

    Reputed to have the Middle East's only nuclear arsenal, Israel sees the makings of a mortal threat in Iran's uranium enrichment and missile projects, and has threatened to resort to force if it deems diplomatic isolation of its foe a dead end.

    The prospect of Israel worsening regional instability with a unilateral strike has stirred worry in war-weary Washington.

    Obama's top military adviser, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Martin Dempsey, was due to make his first visit to Israel on Thursday.

    Israeli media predicted Dempsey would seek to persuade his hosts not to "surprise" the United States on Iran. The U.S. embassy had no immediate information about the visit's agenda.

    Yaalon, himself a former top armed forces commander, said Israel should not "leap forward" to attack Iran.

    "But Israel has to be ready to defend itself," he said. "Let's hope we do not arrive at that moment."

    Netanyahu sounded sanguine last week about the efficacy of big-power pressure on Iran, telling an Australian newspaper: "For the first time I see Iran wobble ... under the sanctions that have been adopted and especially under the threat of strong sanctions on their central bank."
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    Disappointed yes, surprised, no.
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    I have to say Iran has been really full of crap lately. We know they're building (or at least trying to build) nuclear weapons. They act all threatening when one of their scientists ends up dead. I think it's time for Obama to openly call bullcrap, but he won't. I'm starting to question whether Obama would. Maybe there's a bigger picture which we're not allowed to see and maybe he has a plan. He isn't always known for letting his plans out in the open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I have to say Iran has been really full of crap lately. We know they're building (or at least trying to build) nuclear weapons. They act all threatening when one of their scientists ends up dead. I think it's time for Obama to openly call bullcrap, but he won't. I'm starting to question whether Obama would. Maybe there's a bigger picture which we're not allowed to see and maybe he has a plan. He isn't always known for letting his plans out in the open.
    Unlikely. First, if Obama had a plan, he'd be crowing about it. He doesn't tend to let good things happen quietly if he can be there to take credit for them. More likely is that his subordinates have a plan that they are quietly executing in spite of him, and he will take credit if things go well. This was the way that the Bin Laden raid went down.

    Second, Obama sees Iran as a victim of American imperialism, and Israel as a colonial occupier of it's own country. It doesn't sink in that Israel shares no border with Iran, and that the only reason that Iran wants to destroy Israel is religion. The Palestinians, the building of homes in Jerusalem, the myriad petty little feigned outrages that Iran and the rest of the Muslim world cite as their causae belli, are all excuses for their religious goal of eliminating a non-Muslim state from their midst. It's the same mindset that has driven Christians from Muslim countries. It's the same morality that justifies the abductions, rapes, brutalizations and murders of non-Muslims in Darfur, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Egypt and anywhere else where Muslims control the means to engage their enemies. To Obama, it's all about the west's colonial past and our supposed failure to modernize the rest of the world. He won't do anything because he doesn't see the need to.

    Third, and most tellingly, Obama is engaged in massive cuts to defense. We cannot cope with a flare up of Islamist jihad with the force that he is proposing, so his best option is to attempt to reduce tensions through appeasement. He's Neville Chamberlain, and Israel is Czechoslovakia, with the West Bank and Gaza substituting for the Sudetenland. Just remember what followed Munich.
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    Thanks for your input. If you were American, it would mean something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Thanks for your input. If you were American, it would mean something.
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