This devolves into an arguing match with everyone taking a different view and arguing amongst themselves.
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Single dad trying to take back home occupied by OWS
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Occupy Wall Street protesters announced with great fanfare last month that they moved a homeless family into a “foreclosed” Brooklyn home — even though they knew the house belonged to a struggling single father desperately trying to renegotiate his mortgage, The Post has learned.
OWS leaders and Brooklyn Councilman Charles Barron, an OWS supporter, met with Ahadzi before the press conference to discuss the future of his property, he said. Ahadzi hoped that the group would help him regain his footing.
“Why can’t you fight for me?” he asked them.
“They told me I don’t qualify,” he said. “So my lawyer asked what the qualifications are. I have to be with an organization and they’ll deal with the bank and you have to be homeless.
“They said they couldn’t help me,” he added.
This is pretty fucked up.
9Star Member RKP5637 (17,170 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. Agree! "This is pretty fucked up."Star Member Aerows (6,313 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Can you post a source that isn't either Rupert Murdoch run or a right winger site?
Please don't sit there and claim that Murdoch and Murdoch controlled media are not known to twist the truth, or outright tell lies.LOL, to liberals not having huge crowds in the streets means that the Tea Party is "going away" and isn't influential. Let them believe it, it won't do them any good.Star Member nadinbrzezinski (100,988 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
129. I can certainly understand why partisans (on both sides) may feel this way
By the way, here is a serious mistake you are making... I am willing to bet, from the OWSers I personally know, they are among the most politically aware and informed people I know. Low information is not precisely the term I would use. Now that is a term I would use with Tea Parties RIGHT NOW... and one reason the T Party is going away is precisely that these people are starting to realize how far they were used.
The problem for PARTISANS (on both sides) is that they cannot harness the energy in this social movement. And let's be honest, OWS is a direct challenge to the system... but that gets me into a whole different discussion. See my sig.
But I get it... why partisans (on both sides) feel that way.
If you want equivalents, well the Bonus March is a good example. They were non partisan either. Oh yes, before you say it, they got mowed by the army... and their camp was burned... but you know what? It was due to THAT that Americans became aware of a lot of shit... and you know what is even better? The New Deal is partly their doing. If they were at home starving to death there would have been zero pressure to do anything in DC... silly shit that happens with social movements.
You want to know ANOTHER non partisan movement? The Suffragettes...
Then there is the anti slavery movement...
Women's Rights, while right now mostly trending dem, did not start that way.
Civil rights, DITTO.
It is not my fault most people are quite ignorant of the damn arc... but I get it, why you feel this is just shit and wasted energy. Your predecessors felt the same way with many other social movements. I am so damn glad I am NOT a partisan. Makes looking at life not as a team sport much better. And this is particularly the case when it comes to politics.
If it goes by the name OWS then it is part of OWS; they can disclaim it all they want but when it is a movement like that they will be judged by what individuals that claim to be part of OWS do.Star Member BumRushDaShow (6,379 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
25. This was done by an off-shoot group
OWS is a diverse conglomeration of folks with a myriad of grievances needing to be addressed. And different sub-groups seem to form to take on a specific problem to focus on and these will plan non-violent actions that they feel will begin to address the grievance... E.g., whether to "occupy" a bank, setup food banks for homeless, or march against state, local, federal government in support of a variety of things (union, public education, anti-war, etc). This sub-group apparently "occupies" previously foreclosed homes (and have apparently done so in a number of cities).
So one cannot just broad-brush the actions of an individual or subgroup with some negative banner because of what that subset did that you don't agree with.
Hell, as an AA, I get broad-brushed 24/7 by the lamestream media every time some knucklehead AA teenage punk knocks down a pedestrian and runs away - and then here come the gasbags on the air, insisting that this one incident was a "black problem".