Occupy Wall Street and the Jews

[djones520]

Good thing that Royal Navy frigate was in the Straits a few days ago or Iran would have gotten the Charles de Gaulle.

Indeed it is. I bet the Brits saw the Frenchies running the white flag up the mast, and they decided to move in and save them some embarrasement. :D

[Arroyo_Doble]

Indeed it is. I bet the Brits saw the Frenchies running the white flag up the mast, and they decided to move in and save them some embarrasement. :D

Hey. Cartman had a light sabre!

[Lanie]

Do they call them cheese eating surrender monkeys?

No, but some of them suggest the possibility that earlier Zionists such as Hertzl kept Jews from being saved during the holocaust because they would be brought to a place other than Israel. Some of them talk about how we shouldn't condemn suicide bombings because they're persecuting Palestinians. Some of them will say that IDF killed far more people than what's actually recorded during an event. Some of these "Socialists" for the "working class" will openly say that they do not support the Israeli working class. It goes on and on.

Not that this is advertised that well in the OWS movement, so I really don't like people condemning Jews who sympathize with the OWS movement. Having sympathy for a movement portrayed as being a working class movement should not be condemned as working for the Gestapo.

[Arroyo_Doble]

No, but some of them suggest the possibility that earlier Zionists such as Hertzl kept Jews from being saved during the holocaust because they would be brought to a place other than Israel. Some of them talk about how we shouldn't condemn suicide bombings because they're persecuting Palestinians. Some of them will say that IDF killed far more people than what's actually recorded during an event. Some of these "Socialists" for the "working class" will openly say that they do not support the Israeli working class. It goes on and on.

Not that this is advertised that well in the OWS movement, so I really don't like people condemning Jews who sympathize with the OWS movement. Having sympathy for a movement portrayed as being a working class movement should not be condemned as working for the Gestapo.

Kooks is kooks, Lanie. I was taking issue with the attempt in the OP to equate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.

[Lanie]

Kooks is kooks, Lanie. I was taking issue with the attempt in the OP to equate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.

Criticism of Israel is certainly okay (although some people here probably disagree).

Thing is you do have the kooks in the crowd. From the OP:

Nor was the hostility a matter of undertones only. The tone, very early on, was set in part by signs and messages that were overtly anti-Semitic. “Google: (1) Wall St. Jews, (2) Jewish Billionaires, (3) Jews & FedRsrvBank,” read one sign. Another: “Nazi Bankers Wall Street.” The man holding up a sign that read “Hitler’s Bankers,” upon being pressed by passersby to explain himself, replied “Jews control Wall Street.” He was then asked whether the Fox News Channel had asked him to hold up the sign, presumably to make Occupy Wall Street look bad, and he responded, “F— Fox News. That’s bulls—t. F—ing Jew made that up.” Another protester, upon being interrogated by a skeptical elderly passerby sporting a yarmulke, brushed him away saying, “You’re a bum, Jew.”

An Occupier who had traveled from Georgia explained his anti-Jewish animus to a reporter from the New York Post by stating that “Jews are the smartest people in the world,” that “they control the media,” and that nobody is willing to point out this simple truth because “the media doesn’t want to commit suicide by losing the Jewish advertisers.” Still another Occupier expostulated in a widely circulated video: “The smallest group in America controls the money, media, and all other things. The fingerprints belong to the Jewish bankers who control Wall Street. I am against Jews who rob America. They are one percent who control America. President Obama is a Jewish puppet. The entire economy is Jewish. Every federal judge [on] the East Coast is Jewish.”

Now, the two paragraphs above have nothing to do with Israel.

It has more, but you can read it for yourself. I think what happened is that some people in Manhattan had legitimate grievances and protested. It encouraged others in the country to protest. When some of the fringe activist groups saw that it was catching on, they hijacked the movement. I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.

[Adam Wood]

Kooks is kooks, Lanie. I was taking issue with the attempt in the OP to equate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.

Wow. If " F—ing Jew made that up" and "you're a bum, Jew" don't count as antisemitism, what does?

[Arroyo_Doble]

Wow. If " F—ing Jew made that up" and "you're a bum, Jew" don't count as antisemitism, what does?

What do those two statements have to do with Israel?

[noonwitch]

Kooks is kooks, Lanie. I was taking issue with the attempt in the OP to equate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.

Good Luck with that.

[Arroyo_Doble]

Good Luck with that.

Yes, it is a windmill.

[Rockntractor]

Wow. If " F—ing Jew made that up" and "you're a bum, Jew" don't count as antisemitism, what does?

It meant they are very good lovers and adept at acquiring money.