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    Now we have an even 100 posts.:D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Sorry, Lanie, but I missed this my first time around. I'm not ignoring it...<snip>

    You have to forgive Lanie. With her, as with a cast majority of Liberals, if one Christian thinks this way then they all do. You know as well as I do that liberals can't function unless they put everyone in groups. This is why a black person can't stray from the plantation and be conservative. In her worldview, there are no individuals, just groups of people who are supposed to all have a hive mind of each other. Of course, like nova, she fails to point out ant evidence that any conservative group ever behaved in public the way liberal groups do. All Lanie is trying to do is justify OWS abhorrent behavior by pointing out that some conservatives have said mean things at one time or another. Just points out the childishness of the liberal mind. "Well, they did it!"

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    Now we have an even 100 posts.:D
    And I just pushed us into room 101. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post

    And I just pushed us into room 101. :)
    Actually you were 102.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Oh man. This is epic. Old Bridget and new Ody in a war of words. Let me clear my calendar and get my reading glasses. :eek:
    It's epic. But in the end Bridget won't have learned a thing and Ody will have wasted his time on her.
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    Oh man. This is epic. Old Bridget and new Ody in a war of words. Let me clear my calendar and get my reading glasses. :eek:
    Unfortunately, I don't have the time on my hands I used to have. :D

    Ody, I'll get to you later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I have to come clean,Nova is not an actual human poster, he is software. We created the NOVA program (Notoriously, Obnoxious, Vegan, Asshole) to fill our need for a troll to argue with us and to direct our conservative hate toward. We added every possible detestible attribute we could to NOVA but unfortunatly we overdid it and the program grew into our software like a fungus, it seams to have infused itself into the very core of our software, gawd help us all !:eek:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Unfortunately, I don't have the time on my hands I used to have. :D

    Ody, I'll get to you later.
    I'll be here. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    Why thank you Ody! lol

    I went to catholic elementary, high school and college. I will be enrolling my daughter in catholic schools as well. While the religion component is important to me somewhat, it's the discipline, good study habits and moral values that sway me towards them. Florida public schools are probably the worst in the country. I have a brand spankin' new school built by a local developer down the block....but I won't have my daughter become an FCAT robot.

    During a high school religion class I recall discussing other religions...we spent ONE hour in four years discussing other religions. The catholic schools I went to were concerned in teaching Christianity through our Catechism and didn't much dwell on other religions. This is the extent of learning of other religions...
    Jews-don't believe in Jesus...Hindu's have a million gods, Muslims think Allah is God, Buddhism have no god, they just believe in Kharma...:D
    I went to Catholic school in the late sixties. The school was actually very careful about religious bias. We had religion class, mass on Wednesday (optional for non-catholics but I can't recall anyone not attending) and prayers here and there, like when an ambulance would go by. I can't recall anything approaching "Catholicism is the only true church." and yet, I did somehow come away from it or my own Episcopal church with the impression that Jews and Asbury Methodists were going to Hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post



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    Sorry, Lanie, but I missed this my first time around. I'm not ignoring it.


    Thompson was talking about Muslim terrorists who had been granted visas, or were coming in with the waves of illegals. His point was that the lack of border security that allowed in twelve million illegals also allowed in quite a few terrorists. He wasn't wrong.
    He should be more clear if that's what he means.


    [QUOTE=Odysseus;481032That's hyperbole, however, since I'm in the area, I'll check to see if he's sharpening any pikes or if any judges are missing. [/QUOTE]

    Some of the things liberals say could be considered hyperbowl. In any case, it's still hate.


    [QUOTE=Odysseus;481032Uh, yeah, that's out there, but who is John Hagee? [/QUOTE]]

    Seriously? :D


    [QUOTE=Odysseus;481032Uh, I hate to tell you this, but for a lot of feminists, that is the agenda (okay, maybe not the witchcraft). Much of the feminist literature of the 70s talked about how marriage enslaved women and encouraged familial breakup. Abortion on demand is pretty much the only thing that a lot of feminists care about. It's certainly the litmus test for whether or not they consider someone a feminist or not, just ask Sarah Palin. The witchcraft thing is pretty bizarre, although there do seem to be a lot of feminist Wiccans, but I'll give you that one. Destroying capitalism? How many feminist organizations consider themselves socialist as well? NOW, which is the largest, was founded by Betty Friedan, a Marxist. Many of their causes are thinly veiled attacks on markets (such as pay equity). And lesbians? Again, NOW's membership was polled a few years ago, and it turned out that a majority of the members were self-identified lesbians. This, BTW, explains a lot of NOW's hostility to men and any institution in which men play a prominent part, such as marriage. So, yeah, he's not saying anything that isn't true of at least a significant portion of feminism. [/QUOTE]

    A lot of feminists from the mainstream movement do hold certain ideas about what should be the law. However, that's NOT THE ONLY thing they're about, and it's certainly not something they're trying to make everybody do. I don't know any feminists trying to make people leave their husband, have an abortion, or become a lesbian. That's beyond hateful and ridiculous. They do take up for the rights of those people, but they're not trying to push people into doing that. Some feminists do think you need to be pro-choice to be a feminist. I don't agree with that. I do think they need to reprioritize in the mainstream feminist movement in the US. However, if you look on NOW's website, those are not the only focuses.

    http://www.now.org/

    This is their page on economic issues.

    http://www.now.org/issues/economic/

    violence

    http://www.now.org/issues/violence/

    sex discrimination

    http://www.now.org/issues/constitution/index.html

    Now, what conservative groups are there who speak out on these issues?

    They're also talking about the violence against women act, the pope and birth control, sexist stereotypes to the toy aisle, how Obama is failing women in the birth control subject (they insulted a Democrat? Whaaat?),


    That's okay. They don't do mammograms. That's why Komen originally cut off their grant, because Planned Parenthood only refers women to other places for mammograms. They only do abortions. As for the rest, it's inflammatory, but the sex education materials that Planned Parenthood provides schools does teach sexual conduct outside of marriage (fornication) and does discuss homosexuality. I don't recall bestiality in the mix, but it's been a long time since high school, and the curriculum may have changed. :D
    Planned Parenthood's services.

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...gram-21195.htm

    It speaks about a mammogram. Another area speaks about breast exams.

    Here are a list of their other services (not just abortion).

    http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/



    And abolitionists used it to condemn slavery. Christians were on both sides of the issue. OTOH, the exportation of African slaves began with Muslim conquests of African kingdoms. Initially, they were marched to the Middle East (under conditions in which the majority died en route), but when the Europeans came looking, they were perfectly happy to sell to them, too. Also, the slave trade continued among Arabs well into the 20th century. Saudi Arabia didn't sign the UN convention against slavery until the 1960s, and most Arab states still permitted it, unofficially. Today, Sudan continues the practice. So, yeah, he's right on this one.
    The point is Christians don't have a right to talk about slavery in the 1800s. They were guilty too.


    We've talked quite a bit about my take on Muslims, Sharia and the Constitution. He's right about them, to the extent that they reject the Judeo-Christian values that America was founded on. I think that he's wrong about Hindus, but regardless, he believes what he believes. But do conservatives believe it?
    What do you think about the idea that atheists shouldn't run?

    Well, according to Homeland Security, they are likely to be terrorists. :D
    Oh my. :D

    Seriously, Falwell and Robertson have been relegated to the fringes of conservatism for years. In fact, when Robertson made those statements, the rest of the conservative movement disowned him and he ended up pulling the plug on his campaign after a few primaries. He hasn't been part of the conservative movement for years, precisely because of the inflammatory comments that he's made. The Ralph Reed quote and the quote from Coburn's staffer were hyperbole, and neither of them holds an elective office. OTOH, elected Democrats routinely say far more outrageous things.

    The Italian kids, as I said, were pretty laid back. The Irish kids were always looking for a fight. I actually dated a couple of Italian girls, and their brothers had no problem with it as long as I helped with their math homework. :D
    If they're considered the fringe and not part of the movement, then why do they still have so much power? Why do a lot of them still get funding? Also, I've never heard the condemnation for myself. I've actually heard ideas endorsing them. Remember the crap about how Haiti got struck because their ancesters were witches? There was a woman in my town asking for prayers for them to turn from this. So I don't see the condemnation you see.
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