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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I never understood why liberals thought they could emulate the conservative propaganda methods with any success.
    This is true. Conservative propaganda consists of reporting the news, something that the leftist media doesn't do. OTOH, they had to do something, since liberal propaganda is increasingly getting tuned out. CNN and MSNBC are tanking, the major left-wing newspapers are hemorraging readers, advertisers and revenues, and NPR wouldn't exist without massive infusions of taxpayer cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    or...you know...entertain
    I don't think liberals find hyperbole, tribalism, and shouted rage all that entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Conservative propaganda consists of reporting the news....
    That's just funny.

    And a little sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I don't think liberals find hyperbole, tribalism, and shouted rage all that entertaining.
    Aside from their sick fantasies of rounding up Conservatives and turning this country into a NAZI Wunder land, it's hard to find what liberals think is funny. As for the "hyperbole, tribalism, and shouted rage," we only need wade through the tons of garbage offered up by the liberal MSM to mine for fools gold such as Herr Olbermann, Chrissy Tingle Matthews, etc. Your pretending that this is mainly on the Conservative side is not unexpectedly dishonest. You have learned well from your masters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I don't think liberals find hyperbole, tribalism, and shouted rage all that entertaining.
    yeah...tell that to John Stewart, Chris Mathews, CNN, Keith Olbermann, ect.

    only "ranting and raving" I hear comes from Beck for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    yeah...tell that to John Stewart, Chris Mathews, CNN, Keith Olbermann, ect.

    only "ranting and raving" I hear comes from Beck for the most part.
    John Stewart is satire (mostly directed at the Media but I digress). It is a form that liberals would like. Also, other than Iowahawk, it is a form that conservatives just cannot seem to accomplish.

    Chris is just porn and not really that successful. Maddow and those other guys no one watches except for a few who need their bias stroked like the weak minded that nod their heads to Rush Limbaugh's ranting.

    CNN is not liberal no matter how often you repeat it.

    And if you think Beck is the only one ranting, you need to broaden your experience. I listen to Levin almost daily and his entire show is a rave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    That's just funny.

    And a little sad.
    Glad to see that your not too saddened to present your preferred news sources as the epitome of fairness and balance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    John Stewart is satire (mostly directed at the Media but I digress). It is a form that liberals would like. Also, other than Iowahawk, it is a form that conservatives just cannot seem to accomplish.
    On television, certainly, but for the obvious reason that the networks will not air conservative satire. A recent exception, the Goode Family, lasted six episodes before ABC pulled the plug, but not before they'd moved its time slot several times, just to make sure that it didn't catch on with an audience. And, besides Iowahawk, there are lots of conservative satirists out there. Mark Steyn, PJ O'Rourke, Hope & Change Cartoons, Day by Day and, of ccourse, Rush Limbaugh.

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    Chris is just porn and not really that successful. Maddow and those other guys no one watches except for a few who need their bias stroked like the weak minded that nod their heads to Rush Limbaugh's ranting.
    Chris, Maddow and the others consider themselves journalists, while Rush does not. If anything, he is the entertainer while the others are ranters who make a pretense of being journalists.

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    CNN is not liberal no matter how often you repeat it.
    CNN is quite liberal, no matter how often you deny it.
    It was founded by Ted Turner, who is somewhere to the left of Lenin. During the both Iraq wars, they acted as Saddam's mouthpiece, even allowing one of their journalists, Peter Arnett, to go on Iraqi TV and announce that the US had lost the war. They have produced stories that slandered the US military, using false data, and repeatedly shown us in the worst possible light, the most glaring example of which was their story on Operation Tailwind, a complete fabrication. Their former head of programming, Eason Jordan, accused US forces of targeting journalists for execution in Iraq. Their anti-US bias is obvious to anyone not blinded by ideology.
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    Everything Gore does smacks of desperation. My satellite package includes Current, and I have watched one or two documentaries on it; really have never noticed KO on the listings, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    John Stewart is satire (mostly directed at the Media but I digress). It is a form that liberals would like. Also, other than Iowahawk, it is a form that conservatives just cannot seem to accomplish.

    Chris is just porn and not really that successful. Maddow and those other guys no one watches except for a few who need their bias stroked like the weak minded that nod their heads to Rush Limbaugh's ranting.

    CNN is not liberal no matter how often you repeat it.

    And if you think Beck is the only one ranting, you need to broaden your experience. I listen to Levin almost daily and his entire show is a rave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    On television, certainly, but for the obvious reason that the networks will not air conservative satire. A recent exception, the Goode Family, lasted six episodes before ABC pulled the plug, but not before they'd moved its time slot several times, just to make sure that it didn't catch on with an audience.
    That is tinfoil. Just like the kind of DU talk about radio prior to Air America (even after in some cases). If it would make them money, they would do it in a heartbeat. I don't care how often The Simpsons makes fun of Fox, that network isn't going to kill a cash cow. Same with Southpark (although that is more libertarian than conservative in the modern sense ... which is pretty much Jesus, Guns, Israel and fuck you asshole, I want my tax cut).

    And, besides Iowahawk, there are lots of conservative satirists out there. Mark Steyn, PJ O'Rourke, Hope & Change Cartoons, Day by Day and, of ccourse, Rush Limbaugh.
    Some of the Hope & Change is good but it is mostly of the kook variety. You have to buy the narrative and I really don't. Sometimes, it looks stale.

    Rush is self satire, if anything.

    Don't know the others but there is more than one political cartoonist that can skewer the President without descending into Kenyan Mau Mau cliche.

    Chris, Maddow and the others consider themselves journalists, while Rush does not If anything, he is the entertainer while the others are ranters who make a pretense of being journalists.
    Whatever.
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