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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    You have that backward, Ace. The libel is that unless you are completely devoted to Israel, you are antisemitic.

    Keep up.

    Just kidding on the last. You know that and play the card faster that Sharpton plays his.
    My oath is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, and when you claim, falsely, that I put Israeli interests ahead of ours, you are repeating a classic antisemitic libel. Not that I consider you an anti-Semite, but you certainly repeat the rhetoric when you cannot make any other argument. Your admiration for Ad Busters, a group that has a notorious anti-Israeli bias, is no surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    My oath is to support and defend the Constitution of the United States, .

    And the United States has a partnership with Israel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    And the United States has a partnership with Israel.
    Yes, but to recognize that is tantamount to "loving that nation more than my own", in Arroyo-speak. Rather than discuss facts or history, he resorts to snark and ad hominems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Yes, but to recognize that is tantamount to "loving that nation more than my own", in Arroyo-speak. Rather than discuss facts or history, he resorts to snark and ad hominems.
    It could be worse. He could be Gator.
    In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.

    In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    recognize that is tantamount to "loving that nation more than my own", in .
    And that is a non-sequitur. Anyone who charges that a respect of a US/Israeli alliance means loving Israel more than the US is obviously a juvenile tactic...that just doesn't work.
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    This thread needs more toons:


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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    It could be worse. He could be Gator.
    He does seem to channel him on occasion. :D
    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    And that is a non-sequitur. Anyone who charges that a respect of a US/Israeli alliance means loving Israel more than the US is obviously a juvenile tactic...that just doesn't work.
    One would think, and yet, Israel bashers use it all of the time. Gator was particularly nasty about it, and, like bogus charges of racism, sexism or the other taboos of the left, it's not meant to do anything other than silence discussion. Notice that Arroyo never actually raises any facts in his discussions on Israel, he just shoots snarky insults about how everything that doesn't conform to his worldview is a fantasy. There are very few substantive arguments in his posts, and whenever one of them gets blown out, he resorts to snark.
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    not really a cartoon, but great none the less
    "Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings..." Patrick Henry
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    not really a cartoon, but great none the less
    Outstanding, or is it out crapping?
    How is obama working out for you?
    http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv230/upyourstruly/5d569df9-186a-477b-a665-3ea8a8b9b655_zpse9003e54.jpg
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