#1 Greeks inflamed by bail-out demands02-12-2012, 03:34 PMBy Kerin Hope in Athens and Joshua Chaffin in Brussels
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Greek workers erupted in fury and the government wobbled after the country’s foreign creditors demanded more budget cuts in exchange for a bail-out that is needed to ward off what could be a disorderly default next month.
Financial markets were hit and the mood darkened before a parliamentary vote on Sunday that Greek political leaders have cast as a referendum on whether the country would remain a member of the single European currency.
02-12-2012, 04:02 PM
...like adicts going through withdrawal...
Four boxes keep us free: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.
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02-12-2012, 05:38 PM
I suspect we wont be far behind Greece... unless conservatives are put into office.
And what are the odds of that happening?
Liberalism is just communism sold by the drink.
#5 Greek lawmakers approve austerity bill as Athens burns02-12-2012, 11:36 PMBy Harry Papachristou and Yannis Behrakis
ATHENS | Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:43pm EST
(Reuters) - The Greek parliament approved a deeply unpopular austerity bill to secure a second EU/IMF bailout and avoid national bankruptcy, as buildings burned across central Athens and violence spread around the country.
Cinemas, cafes, shops and banks were set ablaze in central Athens as black-masked protesters fought riot police outside parliament.
State television reported the violence spread to the tourist islands of Corfu and Crete, the northern city of Thessaloniki and towns in central Greece. Shops were looted in the capital where police said 34 buildings were ablaze.
Prime Minister Lucas Papademos denounced the worst breakdown of order since 2008 when violence gripped Greece for weeks after police shot a 15-year-old schoolboy.
"Vandalism, violence and destruction have no place in a democratic country and won't be tolerated," he told parliament as it prepared to vote on the new 130 billion euro bailout to save Greece from a chaotic bankruptcy.
Papademos told lawmakers shortly before they voted that they would be gravely mistaken if they rejected the package that demands deep pay, pension and job cuts, as this would threaten Greece's place in the European mainstream.
"It would be a huge historical injustice if the country from which European culture sprang ... reached bankruptcy and was led, due to one more mistake, to national isolation and national despair," he said.
The chaos outside parliament showed how tough it will be to implement the measures. A Reuters photographer saw buildings in Athens engulfed in flames and huge plumes of smoke rose in the night sky.
"We are facing destruction. Our country, our home, has become ripe for burning, the centre of Athens is in flames. We cannot allow populism to burn our country down," conservative lawmaker Costis Hatzidakis told parliament.
The air in Syntagma Square outside parliament was thick with tear gas as riot police fought running battles with youths who smashed marble balustrades and hurled stones and petrol bombs.
Terrified Greeks and tourists fled the rock-strewn streets and the clouds of stinging gas, cramming into hotel lobbies for shelter as lines of riot policePffffffffffffffffffffff!
02-13-2012, 01:04 AM
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Boy. Take away their right to retire at age 57 with 90 percent of their pay and they get all excited....
02-13-2012, 10:19 AMGreek workers erupted in fury and the government wobbled after the country’s foreign creditors demanded more budget cuts in exchange for a bail-out that is needed to ward off what could be a disorderly default next month.
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Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
02-13-2012, 10:59 AM
Greece is OWS on a grander scale. Both groups don't care what happens when there is no one left to pull the cart.Deplorably Proud To Be An American
02-13-2012, 01:19 PM
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If everyone has their bash the perception of liberality out of his system- I would like to point out that Greece has a huge problem with illegal immigration and at a staggering cost. These illegal aliens are even more militant than the Mexicans in the US, and somehow imagine that they have a right to be in Greece, to use Greece, to live off Greece, and then to "freely migrate" to Western Europe.
This has to stop. No country can operate in the black when it has millions of noncitizens showing up to leech off the citizens.While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
Dying to believe in what you heard
I was staring straight into the shining sun
02-13-2012, 02:53 PM
Germany has decided that they want the PIIGS (Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece and Spain) out of the Eurozone, but lacks the votes to pull it off. However, if the Greeks don't demonstrate that they are willing to incur some austerity, they will lose the support of the rest of the EU, in which case, they will not be signing off on their big, fat Greek bailout.--Odysseus
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Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
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