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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Here's hoping the Republicans do better after one of the field is chosen. We don't need to get into the religious wars. I thought one of the first things we learn is to not get into religious discussions socially. That applies to politics, too.

    We can't fall into the hands of the Obama-ites and their minions, the press. They're twisting Santorum's words and trying to demonize him like they did Michelle Bachman. Next will come his face on the cover of Time or Newsweek, wearing his little vest with a demonic look on his face.

    We need to hit them on bread and butter issues---and survival ones. That 80% proposed drop in our nuclear arsenal could start the discussion, then morph into oil prices and the phony job statistics. They should shout from the rooftops "Can we afford another 4 years?"

    The search for the birth certificate and the discussions of who is a Christian need to stop. It's divisive and being used against us.
    Spot on, SLW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Here's hoping the Republicans do better after one of the field is chosen. We don't need to get into the religious wars. I thought one of the first things we learn is to not get into religious discussions socially. That applies to politics, too.

    We can't fall into the hands of the Obama-ites and their minions, the press. They're twisting Santorum's words and trying to demonize him like they did Michelle Bachman. Next will come his face on the cover of Time or Newsweek, wearing his little vest with a demonic look on his face.

    We need to hit them on bread and butter issues---and survival ones. That 80% proposed drop in our nuclear arsenal could start the discussion, then morph into oil prices and the phony job statistics. They should shout from the rooftops "Can we afford another 4 years?"

    The search for the birth certificate and the discussions of who is a Christian need to stop. It's divisive and being used against us.
    It doesn't take a lot of twisting. He SAID this shit, and it's inconveniently on tape. This is a losing strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Here's hoping the Republicans do better after one of the field is chosen. We don't need to get into the religious wars. I thought one of the first things we learn is to not get into religious discussions socially. That applies to politics, too.

    We can't fall into the hands of the Obama-ites and their minions, the press. They're twisting Santorum's words and trying to demonize him like they did Michelle Bachman. Next will come his face on the cover of Time or Newsweek, wearing his little vest with a demonic look on his face.

    We need to hit them on bread and butter issues---and survival ones. That 80% proposed drop in our nuclear arsenal could start the discussion, then morph into oil prices and the phony job statistics. They should shout from the rooftops "Can we afford another 4 years?"

    The search for the birth certificate and the discussions of who is a Christian need to stop. It's divisive and being used against us.
    Obama's minions will twist any Republican's words, and if they can't, they will make stuff up. The core principle of this election is power: The Democrats want to keep it, and will use it to enforce their rigid orthodoxy on the rest of us. They are theocrats, but their theology is socialism, and they will use every tool and weapon at their disposal to retain the power to impose it. We have to make the case that they cannot be trusted with power, and that the unconstitutional concentration of power in the federal government is a perpetual temptation to tyrants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Here's hoping the Republicans do better after one of the field is chosen. We don't need to get into the religious wars. I thought one of the first things we learn is to not get into religious discussions socially. That applies to politics, too.

    We can't fall into the hands of the Obama-ites and their minions, the press. They're twisting Santorum's words and trying to demonize him like they did Michelle Bachman. Next will come his face on the cover of Time or Newsweek, wearing his little vest with a demonic look on his face.

    We need to hit them on bread and butter issues---and survival ones. That 80% proposed drop in our nuclear arsenal could start the discussion, then morph into oil prices and the phony job statistics. They should shout from the rooftops "Can we afford another 4 years?"

    The search for the birth certificate and the discussions of who is a Christian need to stop. It's divisive and being used against us.
    Yes, this election must be about 0bama. And about his record. The sooner the front runner is chosen, the sooner this will be the case. But the attacks by the GOP and Romney against other republicans has never been fiercer. And candidates are going to respond.

    And I cant find any fault with what Santorum said. But they will twist it, just as they themselves are twisted.
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    I don't have an issue with that either.

    Keep in mind that I'm a Episcopalian and in the upper tiers of the TEC hierarchical structure resides the most godless bunch of pagans and gnostics to every call themselves Christians. I can think of very few elements of common Christian doctrine that they haven't cast aside. Christian beliefs are to stand as an alternative to secular culture. The new Episcopals instead have embraced watered down version secular humanism that would cause Jesus to turn over in His tomb if He had a Tomb to turn over in. :wink:
    The Anglican communion has evolved and promises to be the dominant civic church. As Christian mythology evolves into essential cultural traditions rather than an actual belief in gods and monsters, the Anglican communion will absorb other non-religious churches whose congregations wish a more textured experience.

    Buddhist philosophy has reportedly made tremendous inroads in seminary trained clerics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Articulate_Ape View Post
    Given the situation this country is in, I can't believe this is even being talked about. Talk about deck chairs on the Titanic. Wow.
    I'm very much in agreement with Santorums assessment. But I completely agree with you. This country is going down the tube for far bigger reasons. If we don't get our house in order then you can kiss fixing social issues goodbye.

    However, I have finally realized that using force to implement "Christian social values" is not Christlike.

    If American's are going to be moral, they must choose to be so. Christ didn't beat the rich man into submitting to his will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    We can't fall into the hands of the Obama-ites and their minions, the press. They're twisting Santorum's words and trying to demonize him like they did Michelle Bachman. Next will come his face on the cover of Time or Newsweek, wearing his little vest with a demonic look on his face.
    What is to twist? I heard the audio of the Satan Is Coming For America routine at Ave Pizzeria University on the Todd Schnitt radio show. No twist is required- the man is as batty as Bachman ever dared to be, and actually makes her look competent in other areas.


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    The search for the birth certificate and the discussions of who is a Christian need to stop. It's divisive and being used against us.

    I think religious questions are perfectly legitimate and can't imagine how anyone who thinks that religion is essential can turn around and declare that a person's religion isn't important.

    Obama belonged to a whacked out church- that was and is an issue. Jeremiah Wright is unrepentant, he's just as angry, racist, and belligerent now as he was before.

    Mitt Romney is either a devout Mormon or he needs to explain why ge gives so much money to a church he doesn't believe in. LDS is bullshit, it's even more bullshit than other mythologies because it was made up in the last 150 years and doesn't have the aspect of mysterium tremendum. We bitch about Islam being a political and economic system, and that is precisely what LDS is in the microcosm. They are an insular and secretive cult which does business, charity, and social services on the inside for the benefit of their own.

    Rick Santorum is a nutbag who believes in demonic possession and a real person named Satan.
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    If Santorum ends up as the candidate, the little o has won another 4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retread View Post
    If Santorum ends up as the candidate, the little o has won another 4 years.
    This may be sadly true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retread View Post
    If Santorum ends up as the candidate, the little o has won another 4 years.
    Let me see if I have the logic right here, if the winner and most popular candidate is Rick Santorum, he has less chance to win the popular vote over Obama than one of our less popular people that couldn't get enough votes to win the primaries.
    How is obama working out for you?
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