Im sure the founding fathers lost the argument on a lot of folk too. In fact it was lost on about 30% of the colonists. The founders sacrificed their lives, their fortunes and their honor for those 30% and the rest of us too. History fascinates me and how how some things just never seem to change.
Extemism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. - Barry Goldwater