Nancy Waterman (5,924 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore

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Why are we always tricked into not discussing the real issues?
We go round and round as whether it is religious freedom or birth control.
We go round and round discussing the proof that Obama was born here.
We go round and round on every issue the president supports and the GOP opposes.
None of this is really the issue, which is why we just go round and round.

The real issue is that the GOP totally loathes Obama and everything he does or supports, not because they actually disagree with any of it.
If it were coming from a White Republican, they wouldn't disagree with anything.

But President Obama is a symbol to them of the diverse, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic country that the US is becoming, and they hate it. It is not just that he is African-American, although that is certainly part of it, but he is the child of a foreigner and a White American woman. He is biracial, with a foreign-sounding name. He is a symbol of the end of the the White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant domination of this country and a future of shared power among many diverse groups. The whole concept of him agitates their sense that White Christians are being somehow victimized and robbed of their right to dominion over all, and they are unhinged and furious at the idea. None of the issues we discuss seem to make any sense because they don't. They are all "proxy wars" and a way of attacking Obama and attempting to decrease his power.
Is there anything more narcissistic than thinking that your opponents agree with everything you do, but are opposing you because of race?
Nancy Waterman (5,924 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. Of course it is a real issue (womens health)

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But I don't think they attack it because they aren't for it. Most of their wives probably use contraception. They attack it, at least regarding the religious freedom versus contraception argument, so they can crush Obama. He put contraception in the health care law, and they see it as a way to attack. It was never an issue before and is already on the books in a multitude of states.

Abortion is a real issue for a lot of people, that is true. But if you hate abortion, why would you not want more contraception and more sex education? Why would you not want more accessible health care for pregnant women so the babies are healthy? It makes no sense.

Most of the stuff we go round and round about is nonsense, but forced on us by the GOP. Remember Libya? First they said we should go in sooner, then when we did, they said we shouldn't have gone in. So we had to discuss the pros and cons of a policy they undoubtedly would have applauded had it been from one of their own.

Another big problem is that the GOP start believing their own bullshit, and then argue forcefully for it when it doesn't make any sense. I just feel we spin our wheels a lot when we could be discussing real ideas and real solutions to problems. But they are truly stuck in their sense of victimization and their fear of a diverse future and a changing America. And they act out their rage all the time.
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2. The real issue is that

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there is a concerted effort that has been funded and staffed over the past three decades to

1) destroy the New Deal
2) disenfranchise women
3) reverse civil rights legislation
4) institutionalize a permanent two-class economy.


The election of President Obama emboldened them to throw away their dog whistle and drag out the megaphone. This is a group of people who see themselves as entitled above all others and are so fearful of losing their entitlements that they will do anything to hold onto them.
Proud Liberal Dem (8,513 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. I blame the media mostly

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They have to be dragged, kicking and screaming, into covering anything we're talking about. Anytime a right-winger/Republican so much as farts and/or unleashes a torrent of verbal diarrhea, they're right there to "cover" it ad nauseum. I don't know if it's because they support the right-wing ideology or if their stuff just has a "train wreck" appeal to it or what but clearly somebody at the top seems to think that coverage of right-wing/Republican issues and their "manufactroversies" are likely to generate higher ratings, publicity.