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03-16-2012, 02:28 PM
I'm always against the DP. I'm particularly against it when:
1. Someone is being singled out over similar offenders so that they can make an example out of him
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2. There is some real mitigating circumstance behind his crime, like a medical condition.
It's looking like this guy fits both criteria to get some sympathy from me.
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03-16-2012, 03:46 PM
If that offender tortured your family to death in front of you. The raped and murdered your family over days while you watched just to increase your horror, would that be reason enough to make an example out of him?
2. There is some real mitigating circumstance behind his crime, like a medical condition.
It's looking like this guy fits both criteria to get some sympathy from me.
I'm just trying to figure out exactly where you are on this DP issue.Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
Ayn Rand
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03-16-2012, 04:08 PM
Nidal Hasan should have been charged with treason, as well as multiple counts of murder. Both are capital crimes under the UCMJ.
Mitigation will be taken into account when he goes to trial. It's part of the sentencing hearing, as is a unique aspect of the UCMJ. If it turns out that he was suffering from the effects of TBI, he will most likely get a reduced sentence, but regardless, his actions have truly screwed us in Afghanistan.
The Pashtun believe in a code called "Pashtunwali", which has a number of critical principles, one of which is "Badal", which is usually translated as justice or revenge. Literally, it means "To seek justice or take revenge against the wrongdoer." Justice in Pashtunwali extends to things that we might find trivial, such as an insult, which would demand redress through the shedding of the blood of the person making the insult or, in his absence, his closest male relation. Needless to say, this incident meets the definition of a blood feud, and Pashtun blood feuds make the Capulets and the Montagues look like a love fest. There are kids who haven't even been born who will someday take up blood feuds that started when Alexander crossed into India. The only way to satisfy this kind of blood feud is to either wipe out the tribe, give them the offender or pay them off, if they will accept a payoff.--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
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#44 Breaking news
03-16-2012, 07:31 PM
Military sources identify the suspect in the shooting deaths of 16 Afghan
civilians as Staff Sgt. Robert Bales. --- CNNMay the FORCE be with you!
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03-19-2012, 11:08 AM
--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
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03-19-2012, 02:00 PM
Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
Ayn Rand
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03-19-2012, 03:59 PM
If they are on the post, they probably are not permitted to carry weapons, and given the circumstances, any guns that they had and that were registered with the Provost Marshall were probably taken. However, the post commander ought to raise the threat level and ensure that there are MPs or federal police guarding the family, especially since the media was kind enough to inform every jihadi within CONUS as to their approximate location.
--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
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03-19-2012, 07:23 PM
Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
Ayn Rand
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