03-12-2012, 02:51 PM
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Now, Wee Wee;
Chuck58 feels that we have become too socialist. That's how he feels. What's the big deal? Let him feel that way. You may even ask him why he feels that way if you really care, but to challenge his notion and attempt to replace it with your notion is fruitless and silly.
03-12-2012, 03:41 PM
Chuck58, why do you feel that America is socialist or right on the cusp of becoming socialist? What does "Socialist" mean to you and what are the indications that we are there or almost there?
Keep in mind that I may disagree, and you're free to believe whatever you please, but I am curious as to how you came to your conclusions here.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
03-12-2012, 04:45 PM
Actually, thinking on it, progressivism fits better than socialism, although both are just about locked at the hip.
I see it as a cancer that began around the turn of the last century or a little before. The ultimate goal is the destruction of capitalism and individual liberty. We're seeing it happen. General Motors is partially government and union owned. Banks, commerce, virtually everything is under the thumb of one or the other government agency. States rights are ignored, subverted and challenged.
Government is growing and becoming more intrusive. The Constitution is being circumvented. Citizens in the 4 border states have lost some of their 2nd Amendment privileges. Buy more than 2 firearms and Uncle Sam is notified as to what, along with the serial #s. By any name, that's registration - under the excuse that the guns, above .22 caliber might be smuggled into Mexico, that rationale from the very government that did that very thing. And, don't think if they get away with it here in the border states, it won't become national.
They're using the unions, illegal aliens, the unemployed, the underemployed and those who are simply unhappy, dissatisfied or who think they are to achieve their goals.The poster formerly known as chuck58 on the old board.
03-12-2012, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE]You never defined what 1 is, but we are surely closer to there. No politicians anywhere in the US even dares to question Capitalism, there is no substantial criticism of US capitalism as a system at all in our public debate.
I don't even know where to begin on this one so let's take it one by one. Please give examples of how we are a socialist country.
Massive government expenditures on entitlements for nearly 50% of Americans,
Government owned mortgages,
Government controlled/paid pharmacy,
I'm sure if you feed your brain some facts once in a while, you might have a moment of clarity whereby you accidentally realize your government is not the same limited size and scope that is was originally, or as it was originally intended.
Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
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Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
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