Thread: Trayvon Martin: Debunking thread
03-26-2012, 04:00 PM
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From the "weeping and gnashing of teeth" file:
#30. I'm detecting that the media is beginning to change the Trayvon Martin case narrative. (They can't do this!!! Trayvon is the only only victim!!111!!! He never hurt nobody!!111)
WI_DEM (27,503 posts)
I'm detecting that the media is beginning to change the Trayvon Martin case narrative
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to begin to TRY and elicit sympathy or at least understanding as to why George Zimmerman felt THREATENED and felt HE needed to need to defend himself by KILLING an unarmed teenager.
To me this change in the media narrative makes no difference at all. Trayvon was unarmed. He wasn't committing any crimes and was walking back to the place he was staying, and talking with his girlfriend on his cell phone. Neighborhood goon George Zimmerman saw another black person who he didn't feel should be walking the streets of his neighborhood and decided to pursue him even when 911 told him not to. So what if Zimmerman was bloodied up--Trayvon felt that he was defending himself from a stalker. End of story--Zimmerman should be arrested.
Let's teach you some facts:
1. The teen was 6'3'', 140-160 lbs. He easily outran the pudgy Zimmerman (5'9'', 240, 28-yrs old).
2. You can hear Fact #1 on the NON-EMERGENCY police dispatch tape. (Not 911. Can we just learn that?)
3. The change in the media narrative is based on the emergence of facts: 2 witnesses (1 African American teen and one old white guy), Zimmerman's real injuries, and Trayvon's 10-day suspension for pot. The Media isn't changing the narrative: the facts are.
4. "Neighborhood goon George Zimmerman"
5. "George Zimmerman saw another black person who he didn't feel should be walking the streets of his neighborhood ".
No, dear heart. Zimmerman saw a tall, teenager whose race he could not tell for sure, and whom he did not recognize ambling around looking at things, like houses. This was a neighborhood that had a lot of crime, and the neighbors were all on edge. Trayvon's actions in that context were suspicious. Zimmerman had every right to call the cops.
6. "and decided to pursue him even when 911 told him not to."
OK, not 911. (See #2). And if you listen to the tape, you can hear that George only pursues for 25 seconds. He's pudgy. He gets winded. The police dispatch hears this heavy breathing. He says "We don't need you to do that [pursue]". After that 25 seconds, Zimmerman's breathing begins to return to normal. Trayvon had disappeared by that time. The only reasonable explanation that fits the facts is that George STOPPED pursuing Trayvon. He couldn't keep up.
7."Trayvon felt that he was defending himself from a stalker. End of story"
Trayvon approached Zimmerman for a solid minute--4 times longer than Zimmerman pursued him later. (You can hear that on the tape.) Was he really afraid of a stalker? Or was he concerned that some guy in an SUV had observed him and was calling the cops?
After a minute, Trayvon decided to run. Why he did is anyone's guess. Maybe he listened to his girlfriend. Or maybe he knew Zimmerman was on the phone with the cops. You do know that Trayvon was suspended for drugs. You know that his dad (Tracy Martin) called the police on Monday morning "to see if he had been arrested". You do the math.
Last edited by Elspeth; 03-26-2012 at 04:07 PM.
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