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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    I think because of the shit storm in the media & court of public opinion it's going to be next to impossible for Zimmerman to get a fair trial. Unless he retains on hell of a lawyer I see a plea bargain to lesser charges. he is going to do some time,how much,we will see.
    Convicting George Zimmerman may not be easy: Fla. prosecutor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Rebel Yell,

    George spent exactly 25 seconds in actual pursuit of Trayvon if you go by the tape to non-emergency police dispatch.

    George is 5'9'' and 240 (250 if you believe the police report); he's short and overweight. Trayvon is (6'3'' and 140 (160 on the police report) and in the kind of shape only a 17-year old can be in.

    Trayvon was running away when George began his futile pursuit. George starts huffing and puffing immediately, which is what tips off dispatch that George is in pursuit.

    After 25 seconds, Trayvon is gone; George says, "He ran". Then George's breathing, which was heavy and puffing during the 25 second pursuit begins to calm down. He starts to speak more normally, with more even paced breathing. We never hear that huffing and puffing again.

    George stopped pursuing Trayvon. He tells the police that he went back to the SUV and I believe him, not because I think he's the brightest bulb in the box, but because George is not in any physical shape to chase after a 17-year-old. Trayvon had completely disappeared and even George knew that he couldn't possibly catch up.

    George is also scared of Trayvon; you can hear it in the tape. He doesn't want to leave his name or address with the dispatcher because he is afraid Trayvon might still be around, hiding, and might hear him. He indicates this to dispatch on the phone.

    The "pursuit" has been highly exaggerated. The sequence is simple:

    • George is in his SUV on an errand.
    • He spots Trayvon from a distance.
    • He calls non-emergency dispatch from inside his SUV.
    • A minute into the call, Trayvon approaches his SUV, and the approach lasts about a minute.
    • For some reason, Trayvon then decides to run. (Fear of the cops? the girlfriend's advice? It's not clear.)
    • George says, "They always get away" and frustrated gets out of his SUV. (You can hear the car door open and slam shut)
    • George's 25 second pursuit, during which dispatch says, "We don't need you to do that"
    • Trayvon is out of sight.
    • George starts to breathe normally and gives 911 his information
    • Call ends after 4 1/2 minutes

    Just listen to the tape.
    If he'd never gotten out of the SUV and Tryvon never saw him, he could have just waited for the police. Trust me, I'm not one of those who believes in waiting on the police in dire situations, but this was a non emergency that Zimmerman treated as an emergency. I'm not saying she should go to jail, but he did behave like an idiot. Then again, Trayvon didn't have to take off running either.
    I feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
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