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    Its amazing that as soon as the "No blood" video made its appearance the same voices that said it didn't matter that Martin started the altercation...suddenly started trumpeting what they purport it shows concerning an absence of physical evidence of Zimmerman having been subject to an assault


    There are a lot more details to be had from statements by EMS to the cops at the scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Leaving aside the issue of broken noses don't drip blood, they gush blood and that his injuries were not even severe enough to require a band-aid, how can a man pinned to the ground shoot the person on top of him in the chest at point blank range and not get any blood on himself?
    Um, I broke my nose and not one drop of blood came out so you fail miserably here. As for the 2nd part, you watch too much CSI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Um, I broke my nose and not one drop of blood came out so you fail miserably here. As for the 2nd part, you watch too much CSI.
    Has an autopsy report stated there was powder burns on Trayvon? If he was shot point blank, there would be and that would help to back up George's claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Um, I broke my nose and not one drop of blood came out so you fail miserably here. As for the 2nd part, you watch too much CSI.
    As to the first part, OK. I have only seen a few broken noses and they all bled profusely. I will admit that they don't necessarily bleed. But it will be hard to convince me that holes in the chest don't bleed.

    And I've never seen CSI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Pirate View Post
    Has an autopsy report stated there was powder burns on Trayvon? If he was shot point blank, there would be and that would help to back up George's claims.
    I don't think it's really at question that Martin was shot at very close range. No one to the best of my knowledge disputes that Zimmerman fired with his muzzle just a few inches (if that) away from Martin. If there' aren't powder burns, then I suppose that will change the equation quite a bit, but really, out in the real world, most shootings are at point-blank range and relatively few people can actually hit a man-sized target with a pistol from fifty feet away.

    I'm sure they're testing, but I'm also pretty confident that it's a foregone conclusion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Um, I broke my nose and not one drop of blood came out so you fail miserably here. As for the 2nd part, you watch too much CSI.
    Good to know. I think the DUmmies figure that if blood wasn't gushing out everywhere George wasn't hurt. I also would like to see his hospital records from the next day. Finally, if someone is bashing your head into the pavement, there might be a concussion as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    I don't think it's really at question that Martin was shot at very close range. No one to the best of my knowledge disputes that Zimmerman fired with his muzzle just a few inches (if that) away from Martin. If there' aren't powder burns, then I suppose that will change the equation quite a bit, but really, out in the real world, most shootings are at point-blank range and relatively few people can actually hit a man-sized target with a pistol from fifty feet away.

    I'm sure they're testing, but I'm also pretty confident that it's a foregone conclusion anyway.
    Thanks. I didn't hear either way on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    As to the first part, OK. I have only seen a few broken noses and they all bled profusely. I will admit that they don't necessarily bleed. But it will be hard to convince me that holes in the chest don't bleed.

    And I've never seen CSI.
    Then I take it you've never seen anyone shot before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    As to the first part, OK. I have only seen a few broken noses and they all bled profusely. I will admit that they don't necessarily bleed. But it will be hard to convince me that holes in the chest don't bleed.

    And I've never seen CSI.

    I can actually say the opposite: My nose has bled profusely on several occasions, but the bones have never been broken. The blood vessels got broken, from the injury I mentioned in the lounge topic about retro toys, in which I was hit across the face by another kid with a metal Tonka truck. I had nosebleeds throughout my childhood due to this injury, because of the blood vessels. Everytime I had a cold, anytime I slightly bumped my nose, when I was in high elevations, etc.

    Every great once in a while, I will have a minor one still, but it's maybe once a year or so, during or after a bad cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I can actually say the opposite: My nose has bled profusely on several occasions, but the bones have never been broken. The blood vessels got broken, from the injury I mentioned in the lounge topic about retro toys, in which I was hit across the face by another kid with a metal Tonka truck. I had nosebleeds throughout my childhood due to this injury, because of the blood vessels. Everytime I had a cold, anytime I slightly bumped my nose, when I was in high elevations, etc.

    Every great once in a while, I will have a minor one still, but it's maybe once a year or so, during or after a bad cold.
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