03-30-2012, 11:02 AMIn Memory Of My Friend 1st Sgt. Tim Millsap A Co, 70th Eng. Bn. 3rd Bde 1st AD...K.I.A. 25 April 2005
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid
To Achieve Ordered Liberty You Must Have Moral Order As Well
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.
03-30-2012, 11:06 AM
Bolton makes this claim, then states that he has no proof of it.
03-30-2012, 11:20 AM
Leaking classified information that was provided by an ally in order to undermine the ally's critical security requirements destroys trust and confidence, but doesn't prevent anything, it just makes it more difficult for that ally to operate. The mission will continue, because Israel has no choice in the matter (or do you not believe that Iran will use nuclear weapons in a first strike on Israel, as they have repeatedly said that they will do?), but it will now continue without our being in the loop. Since the Iranians will not believe that we aren't in the loop, and will, in fact, place equal blame on us for any Israeli action, then Obama has guaranteed that we will be caught flat-footed when Israel does act, because they sure as hell won't trust us again. And let's not forget that Iran is at war with us, as they have repeatedly stated. An Iranian nuke doesn't need an ICBM to reach us. They can hand it off to terrorists, or use their new port facilities that Hugo Chavez has so thoughtfully provided to them to bring it close to our coastline. There is also solid evidence of Mexican drug cartels working with Iran and other Islamists, which means that a nuke could be smuggled across our southern border. That means that the cities that are most at risk are San Diego, Dallas, San Antonio and Houston.
Obama's actions have failed to stop any raid, but have reduced its chances for success, and further endangered the US, which now has far less intel coming from Israel or any other Middle Eastern state (the Saudis, Jordanians and Iraqis aren't too keen on living under Iranian nuclear hegemony, either). He's not so much shot us in the foot as stabbed us in the eyes.
Oh, and our NATO ally in the region, Turkey, just had a lovely tete-a-tete with Iran, in which Erdoğan defended Iran’s nuclear program and expressed solidarity with their response "to the arrogance of the Western countries.”
Last edited by Odysseus; 03-30-2012 at 11:23 AM.
03-30-2012, 11:29 AMEducation without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
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C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
03-30-2012, 01:39 PM
As for the rest, your BS about our expecting Obama to put Israeli interests ahead of ours is a typical straw man. The US and Israel share a common enemy in Iran, but Israel is closer, and therefore the threat to them is greater, but don't pretend that Iran will not target us. We're in this together, and undermining our ally is nonsensical.
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