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    Ahhhh...another classic DUmmie post about the job market.



    Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:04 PM
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    For my 6000th post, Please allow me to say that job hunting and unemployment really SUCK!

    As many of you know, I, as well as many others here, have been unemployed for 10 months. Many of you were VERY supportive in early February when I posted a thread about a son of a bitch bastard quack "doctor" who screwed me out of a job with his assertion that my back would make it impossible fo me to fulfill my duties in a position where I would have to TALK to people.

    In January, I was called back for a 4th interview for what I thought would be a really good job. My wife and I thought that for a 4th interview (that I was told in advance would be a brief 30 to 40 minute chat) they were looking to firm up an offer and a starting date. I was shocked when I saw that the "interview" was clearly an exercise in trying to find excuses to NOT hire me.

    I know, by the way, that I am a strong interviewer. My references are all close personal friends that were all supervisors or co-workers at one time or another.

    Since early March of this year, I have had 10 interviews for state jobs. I have received the "blow off" letters for 7 of them so far. My scores for state positions is always in the high 90s if not 100+.

    I interviewed for a position Friday 3/16. The job description may as well have simply said "JACK". The 3 individuals stated at the end of the interview that they looked forward to bringing me aboard and working with me. On Wednesday 3/21 I received a phone call from the director stating that she had "good news and bad news". Obviously the bad news was that I didn't get the job. The "good" news was that she "invited and encouraged" me to apply for the exact same position at an office that was about another 10-12 miles further away from my home. I applied immediately via e-mail. I called her on 3/29 to see when I may schedule an interview and was denied by the same woman who solicited my application.

    This was the most cynical thing I'd seen done in a job hunt since my first official part time job as a dish washer when I was 15 in 1970. I think that I called a bluff and that I was supposed to say that the second opportunity was too far away.

    There have also been several other interviews that I thought were good possibilities. Each of them has fallen through

    I have seen that there is considerable discrimination being practiced against the long term unemployed. I also believe that, even though I look much younger than I am, the biggest factor is that I'll be 57 in June.

    This week I expect to be offered a position that will pay under $10 an hour. Even though I have a Masters Degree and almost 20 years experience in my field, I'll be happy to get it. The agency seems a good one and it certainly has opportunities for advancement.

    If one of the higher paying jobs comes through I'll take it. If not, I'm keeping my ass where it lands. I am SO SICK of going on interviews that if I never do another one (after I get a job) it'll be too soon. I really have to fight my feelings of depression and despair. I have to keep trying because I have a family that, as many of you know from my other posts here, I love very much and to whom I am very devoted. For them, I have NO OTHER CHOICE than to keep positive and to never give up. Sooner or later SOMEBODY has to look past the gray hair.

    If necessary, I'll be visiting hiring kiosks at Walmart (ugh!), K-Mart, Lowe's, etc,. If I have to, I'll be offering my services for rides, cooking, delivering messages, light hauling or cleaning. Maybe there's a market out there for a pudgy middle aged gray haired male stripper. The only question there is if the ladies would supply their own magnifying glasses to see my naughty bit or if I'd have to throw them in with my fee.

    Still in all, I remain hopeful and optimistic. Things will get better sooner or later. On the whole, sooner would be better. I hope that I and all of the DUers out there find something damn soon. I hope that those of you who are working don't have to go through what we're going through now.

    Thanks for reading and "listening"

    PEACE!
    It's a tad Pitt long but interesting. Of course, it's not the DUmmies fault, oh never!!! This guy, like most DUmmies, could no doubt be an Atomic Scientist but is being held back! Public sector job?? Nope, as I guessed right away it's a gubmint job.

    The DUmmie seems to be having problems getting hired but all I read are excuses and then..."I really have to fight my feelings of depression and despair." Gotta have that in a post!!!

    They are also always out to "get" him!

    As with many DUmmie "Tales of Woe", I doubt we are getting the whole story, not sure why but this guy screams "troublemaker" to me and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if the hiring people are hiding from him.

    Sorry bud, maybe you should send Nadin a PM, she is way more qualified than you in everything possible so maybe she can throw you a bone but I wouldn't hold my breath.
    May the FORCE be with you!
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    Too bad DUmmy, were you an overweight, diabetic BLACK FEMALE, you'd have gotten those jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCat View Post
    Too bad DUmmy, were you an overweight, diabetic BLACK FEMALE, you'd have gotten those jobs.
    Well he did say he was "pudgy"
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    Sorry DUmmy, I don't buy it. Employers don't call you back for fourth interview to deny you a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    Sorry DUmmy, I don't buy it. Employers don't call you back for fourth interview to deny you a job.
    That story has a lot of material. What he should have done was make one of the jobs turn out to have been with the Carlye Group and have Bush Sr. come in the room during the interview and throw him out. The DUmmies would have loved it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaRepub View Post
    That story has a lot of material. What he should have done was make one of the jobs turn out to have been with the Carlye Group and have Bush Sr. come in the room during the interview and throw him out. The DUmmies would have loved it!!!!
    I can't figure out whether he's a fool for going to a fourth interview or not. It seems a bit abusive. Frankly, I consider two interviews to be pushing it, unless they do them both in the same visit. There is a certain lack of good faith if you are not being interviewed by someone with the power to make a decision. It pretty much tells you how working there is going to be. It's what I call "They Syndrome". When you work for some corporations, nothing is ever a decision made by a person with a name, it's always "They say...." I make a point of asking "Who is they?" at every opportunity. Surely someone knows who they is.
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    Masters degree w/-20 experience.

    I'm tempted to call BS. Unless the guy came across as knowing-it-all or has some medical problems he'd damn near get any job on experience alone.
    The 21st century. The age of Smart phones and Stupid people.

    It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCat View Post
    Too bad DUmmy, were you an overweight, diabetic BLACK FEMALE, you'd have gotten those jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaRepub View Post
    Well he did say he was "pudgy"
    And if he is a man posting on DU, can you really call him a man? Two out of three..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    Sorry DUmmy, I don't buy it. Employers don't call you back for fourth interview to deny you a job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I can't figure out whether he's a fool for going to a fourth interview or not. It seems a bit abusive. Frankly, I consider two interviews to be pushing it, unless they do them both in the same visit. There is a certain lack of good faith if you are not being interviewed by someone with the power to make a decision. It pretty much tells you how working there is going to be. It's what I call "They Syndrome". When you work for some corporations, nothing is ever a decision made by a person with a name, it's always "They say...." I make a point of asking "Who is they?" at every opportunity. Surely someone knows who they is.
    It depends on the job and the number of applicants. When the DOD hires civilians, we have to post the job on the government site, then review the resumes, conduct at least one interview with each candidate, and then a final interview of the last two or three by the decision maker. If he considers the first interview to have been dropping off his resume and talking to the HR rep, then the second interview would have been the winnowing of everyone who remotely qualified for the job, then another interview by somebody in the department to cut the applicants down to a manageable number for the final decision maker to interview in person. That's four, and it's not that unusual, especially in larger organizations that are hiring guys with advanced degrees.
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    Ody, actual mileage may vary considerably on that. There really aren't any non-local rules requiring interviews at all in DOD, and I've rarely seen them used for anything besides picking the final winner from the 'Best qualified' list, never to winnow the complete referral list down to the 3-6 'Best qualified.' It's pretty discretionary with the selecting official, and just how afraid that person is of making decisions they might have to actually explain later. The main function of panels and interviews is just ass-coverage, in my civil service time I was hired just off my resume and references twice, and by an interview process once (And defended quite a lot of other selection decisions in EEO cases over the years in all three jobs).
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