Thread: Is it OK to sit out in 2012?
04-11-2012, 12:07 AM
At this point in time, all of that tug-of-war over how much to spend beyond our means and who is to blame is moot. We are where we are, and where we are is not in a good place. This nation is headed for a financial catastrophe, the likes of which the world has never seen. While we bicker over issues of racism, social/economic equality, the environment, etc., the very fabric (whether it be just or not) that holds humanity together on this planet is very, very close to collapsing. That fabric is woven from the economies of almost every nation and is held together by the strands of a trusted currency with which to benchmark value.
That benchmark is still the US dollar, but it will not be for much longer unless it can be proved we are worth it. I will not school you on the numbers, as they are readily available, both in Obamath and generally accepted accounting methods. If the US dollar loses its status as the global default currency, then all those fiat dollars that the Fed has pumped out via QE1 and QE2 (money printings 1 & 2) will drop in value like you won't believe.
Now, couple all of that good news with Obama's agenda from Healthcare to Nutland and you have a nation that has hit rock bottom and has started digging.
In short, this really is an election that will fundamentally change this nation, and, sadly, the choice seems to be death at dusk or death at dawn.
Last edited by Articulate_Ape; 04-11-2012 at 12:11 AM."Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em." ~ Will Rogers
04-11-2012, 12:33 AM
Life isn't about making perfect choices, because more often than not, we don't have perfect options. We act on what is possible, not what we would like things to be. Right now, the choice is Romney or Obama. Anything else is a fantasy. If you sit it out, then Obama has one less vote to overcome, and that puts him one vote closer to having the "flexibility" that he wants for his second term, when he'll really pull out all of the stops.
Remember your oath, Marine. Support and defend the Constitution.
With your vote.--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
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04-11-2012, 12:49 AM
I'll put it to you this way. If you don't vote, you better not bitch when you are paying $100 for a loaf of bread and $50,000 for the next electric car. (inflation) Don't bitch when you are waiting 3 months for an MRI. Don't bitch when your doctor's visit copay is $300. Don't bitch when the Taliban retakes Afghanistan when we are gone. Don't bitch when your taxes are more than your take home pay.
Just don't bitch, if you don't vote.
04-11-2012, 12:50 AM"Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em." ~ Will Rogers
04-11-2012, 02:41 AM
- Join Date
- May 2008
This time around, I have decided to sit out. Just as you couldn't bring yourself to vote for McCain four years ago, I can't bring myself to vote for Romney this time around. I don't fault conservatives who do vote for Romney, however, because what we have in the White House now is a total disaster. While it's true that Romney is better than Obama, the differences are not great enough to get me to pull the Romney lever.
You are going to have to search your conscience and decide what to do on Election Day. In any case, don't let others force you into doing something that violates your conscience. That's the best advice I have.
- Join Date
- May 2010
04-11-2012, 03:17 AM
- Join Date
- May 2010
My biggest irritation in all this that I feel like my free-will has been taken away.
Romney was declared the winner from the get-go. The media told us since Iowa that he was "inevitable" and the only "serious candidate." The other candidates only made the news when they gaffed. It's push-pulling. On top of this, Romney got 5x or more the funding of the other candidates.... all from financial and corporate sector. But, Romney is pro-bailout so that makes sense.
Now what's really suspicious is that the mainstream media are all owned by a small number of parent companies such as GE and Westinghouse. Entities that benefit from the policies that everyone is afraid Romney will implement (corporate welfare).
Now maybe Romney is the best candidate, and maybe he's not. But he's been shoved down our throats, and we are told by the media and the Republican establishment that basically the primary system is a charade to validate the establishment candidate, and we're going to vote for who they damn well tell us. In fact, "winning" is defined by the media by whatever Romney happens to do that day. Romney ties his shoes? Oh, that's what winners do. Santorum ties his shoes? Doesn't he know that it's loafer season?! What a loser. Then crack a joke about Paul or Gingrich.
This, more than anything else, on some deep instinctual level, makes me want to do the opposite of what the media and the establishment are telling me.
Last edited by m00; 04-11-2012 at 03:23 AM.
04-11-2012, 07:28 AM
I'm definitely not staying home this fall. There are local and state races I'm following, and I want the chance to vote against Bob Casey.
But now that Santorum is gone, and Newt Blowhard refuses to drop out in order to raise his speaking fees....I think I'm done with the Presidential race.
Can I just ask one thing: can anyone tell me why they're enthusiastically voting for Romney? I know the reasons are "he's not Obama". But I want to vote for something positive rather than just against something again."Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
04-11-2012, 08:42 AM
- Join Date
- May 2008
- Northern Virginia
I have never sat out an election. There are always Congressional or local candidates and issues to be decided. I am quite capable of leaving the top office blank; I have done it before."Today, [the American voter] chooses his rulers as he buys bootleg whiskey, never knowing precisely what he is getting, only certain that it is not what it pretends to be." - H.L. Mencken
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