04-25-2012, 11:10 AM
As someone once said "play stupid games win stupid prizes", I think they went to easy on them, there should be machine gun nests at the border mowing them down.
04-25-2012, 07:56 PM
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Aren't you an Obama supporter? And didn't Obama sign the National Defence Authorization Act into law -- which allows the federal government to assassinate US citizens on US soil without a trial? Or are you saying that governments murdering people is okay, as long as the government isn't strictly totalitarian?
04-25-2012, 10:31 PM
And didn't Obama sign the National Defence Authorization Act into law -- which allows the federal government to assassinate US citizens on US soil without a trial?
I, however, was staunchly opposed to it.
Or are you saying that governments murdering people is okay, as long as the government isn't strictly totalitarian?Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
04-26-2012, 12:21 AM
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
04-26-2012, 04:24 PM
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04-28-2012, 11:19 AM
I've admitted multiple times on this site that I naively got swept up in the hype and empty rhetoric, the symbolic gesture of voting for a black man, and that I still had one last shred of support for the Democratic party that had let me down many times before.
I admitted that since then I've abandoned that group of clowns and in person I am more staunchly and vocally critical of the Democratic party than I am of the Republicans.
Getting caught up in the Dem vs GOP thing is worthless. It's just a game, just a spectacle. They hype it up just so people feel like they actually have some control over their government, but a false choice between two bad candidates isn't really exercising democratic control.
Politics should be engaged at the local level, in your community with organization. Huffing and puffing about tabloid cable news and casting a pointless vote every few years is just a pacifier.
Why? Socialism is inherently coercive. The individual right to property is the basis for all other rights, and without it, there are no other rights.
Children do not have to right to purchase property, but they have powerful protection of their rights to not be killed, abused, forced into slave labor, etc.
Even prisoners are given rights when they aren't allowed to purchase property.
Explain how a person having the right to own private property is a precondition or basis for their rights to life, their rights to worship freely, etc.
In a nation like Cuba, people have not had the right to own private property (means of production), but their government explicitly recognizes other rights, such as the right to free education or access to health care. This is not an argument concerning the quality of their education or healthcare so don't bother, it's about their government recognizing their rights to the education and healthcare that they do have, while denying the right to private property.
How is that possible?
A state that demands control of property is one that recognizes no other rights. The state cannot dictate the absolute control of property without force, and the ultimate force is lethal force. For the state to control all property, it must have the power to kill its own citizens.
A. The state can only forbid control of property if they reserve the right to use lethal force.
B. A state that has the power to kill its own citizens recognizes no rights.
This line of logic applies to any state government with any laws. The United States enforces all of our laws by giving the police the authority to kill citizens if they resist the enforcement of those laws.
Our government kills people not just as a means to enforce laws (like shooting someone resisting arrest), but even as a punishment for breaking laws.
Your logic says that if a government reserves the right to kill its own citizens to enforce its authority, that said government recognizes no rights.
The United States reserves the right to kill its own citizens to enforce its authority (and it exercises this right regularly). So if your logic is sound, you must admit that the US government recognizes no rights.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
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