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    By Ed Brayton 9/16/08 12:46 PM

    The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee have filed a lawsuit in federal court in Michigan over the Michigan GOPís plan to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters at the polls, as first reported by the Michigan Messenger.

    Bob Bauer, general counsel for the Obama campaign, and Mark Brewer, chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, announced the lawsuit in a conference call with reporters this afternoon. It was filed on behalf of the campaign, the party and three Michigan residents who have had their houses foreclosed upon in recent months.

    Bauer called the GOP plan to use foreclosure lists "a new and especially repellent version of caging." Caging is a technique of challenging voters where they take lists of addresses, mail to them with a "do not forward" marking and if for whatever reason those mailings are returned, they use this as a basis for claiming that the voter no longer lives at the address at which they are registered.

    Bauer noted that using foreclosure lists to challenge a voterís address is "false and illegal" for several reasons. First, because getting a foreclosure notice is not evidence that the personís address has changed. In Michigan, homeowners have the opportunity to redeem the foreclosure even after a sheriffís sale has occurred, which means they can stay in the home for many months after a foreclosure notice has been sent. Second, because under Michigan law a person can vote at their old precinct if they lost their home within 60 days of the election.

    Brewer noted that in July alone 11,000 Michigan residents received foreclosure notices. The McCain campaign, he argued, "wants to add insult to injury" by denying those residents their right to vote. "The right to vote is one of our most fundamental rights as Americans," said Brewer, "To try to strip our fellow citizens of their right to vote is un-American and unconscionable."

    Last week, James Carabelli, chairman of the Macomb County GOP, told the Messengerís Eartha Melzer in a phone interview: "We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people arenít voting from those addresses." The Michigan Republican Party has denied that Carabelli made the statements that the Michigan Messenger reported, but Bauer said that the complaint includes quotes from Republican operatives in Ohio and other states saying much the same thing Carabelli said and defending the legitimacy of using foreclosure lists and voter caging techniques.

    Bauer also said that they expect that the lawsuit will allow them to subpoena emails and memos from the state and local GOP officials that will prove that they had obtained foreclosure lists and were planning to use them for this purpose.

    http://www.michiganmessenger.com/446...eclosure-lists
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    Quote Originally Posted by LogansPapa View Post
    By Ed Brayton 9/16/08 12:46 PM

    The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee have filed a lawsuit in federal court in Michigan over the Michigan GOPís plan to use foreclosure lists to challenge voters at the polls, as first reported by the Michigan Messenger.

    Bob Bauer, general counsel for the Obama campaign, and Mark Brewer, chairman of the Michigan Democratic Party, announced the lawsuit in a conference call with reporters this afternoon. It was filed on behalf of the campaign, the party and three Michigan residents who have had their houses foreclosed upon in recent months.

    Bauer called the GOP plan to use foreclosure lists "a new and especially repellent version of caging." Caging is a technique of challenging voters where they take lists of addresses, mail to them with a "do not forward" marking and if for whatever reason those mailings are returned, they use this as a basis for claiming that the voter no longer lives at the address at which they are registered.

    Bauer noted that using foreclosure lists to challenge a voterís address is "false and illegal" for several reasons. First, because getting a foreclosure notice is not evidence that the personís address has changed. In Michigan, homeowners have the opportunity to redeem the foreclosure even after a sheriffís sale has occurred, which means they can stay in the home for many months after a foreclosure notice has been sent. Second, because under Michigan law a person can vote at their old precinct if they lost their home within 60 days of the election.

    Brewer noted that in July alone 11,000 Michigan residents received foreclosure notices. The McCain campaign, he argued, "wants to add insult to injury" by denying those residents their right to vote. "The right to vote is one of our most fundamental rights as Americans," said Brewer, "To try to strip our fellow citizens of their right to vote is un-American and unconscionable."

    Last week, James Carabelli, chairman of the Macomb County GOP, told the Messengerís Eartha Melzer in a phone interview: "We will have a list of foreclosed homes and will make sure people arenít voting from those addresses." The Michigan Republican Party has denied that Carabelli made the statements that the Michigan Messenger reported, but Bauer said that the complaint includes quotes from Republican operatives in Ohio and other states saying much the same thing Carabelli said and defending the legitimacy of using foreclosure lists and voter caging techniques.

    Bauer also said that they expect that the lawsuit will allow them to subpoena emails and memos from the state and local GOP officials that will prove that they had obtained foreclosure lists and were planning to use them for this purpose.

    http://www.michiganmessenger.com/446...eclosure-lists
    This is simply ANOTHER dirty trick by the Democrats.

    They are FRICKING liars. Dishonest pieces of shit liars.
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
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    Democratic Voter Fraud, Party-Funded Lies and Fear-Mongering (with an assist from the MSM)

    Over the last week, Michigan residents received a crash course in exactly how far Michigan Democrats are willing to go to win an election and exactly how eager the mainstream media is to accommodate them. Character, honesty and integrity weren't just tossed out the window towards a waiting dumpster, they were forcefully thrown through plate-glass, shredding them to ribbons on their way.

    In the span of four days we've discovered evidence of significant and coordinated voter fraud by a far-left Democrat front-group (receiving almost zero media attention) and watched Democrat activists fabricate a scandal using, literally, nothing more than a flashy headline, a bald-faced lie and a heck of a lot of paid, staff level coordination. The fair and balanced, non-biased press, by the way, has had a field day with the lie, taking it, running with it and reporting on it ad nauseum.

    It all started late last week when the Michigan Messenger posted a story asserting that Republicans were planning on preventing African-Americans in Macomb County from voting by blocking anyone whose home had been foreclosed. Their evidence was... well, they didn't have any evidence. They have a far-left blogger on Jon Stryker's payroll claiming a Republican confided in her and confessed to the nefarious scheme. No word on whether or not he rubbed his hands together rapidly, twisted his handlebar mustache or belted out a throaty cackle.

    The Republican, Macomb County GOP Chairman James Carabelli, flatly and forcefully denies ever making the statement.

    Read on...

    Each party sends poll challengers to the ballot box to ensure "ballot integrity." The only tool they can use, legally, to challenge a voter at the polls is a copy of the qualified voter file. A list of foreclosed homes wouldn't do the most conniving evil-doer any "good." Suppose for a moment one attempted to stifle a vote based on a foreclosed home list. What does this vagabond tell the clerk? "I'm sorry, this voter can't cast a ballot because his name is on this meaningless list that has zero legal connection with his right to vote?"

    Suppose further that some how, some way each of the poll workers temporarily lose their minds and permit the challenge. According to the 2000 Census, the African-American population in Macomb County is less than 3%. Home foreclosure is not based on race. In other words, the overwhelming preponderance of voters who have seen their homes foreclosed are Caucasians. Preventing any three percent minority from voting in Macomb County by blocking anyone with a foreclosed home from casting a ballot would be like trying to kill a fly by chugging a bottle of Ortho Insect Fogger. All you're going to do is wind up a corpse with an insect problem.

    To believe the Messenger story is not just to choose the less credible side in a he-said, she-said, it is to suspend one's use of reason to the umpteen-and-twelfth degree of ridiculousness. The story LITERALLY makes no sense. As a story. As a sewer level Democratic Party strategy it is brilliant and, literally, straight out of their Party playbook.

    Page 54, section 2 in the 2004 Democratic National Committee "Election Day Manual" to be specific. It reads, in part:

    2. If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a "pre-emptive strike" (particularly well-suited to states in which there techniques have been tried in the past).

    # Issue a press release

    i. Reviewing Republican tactic used in the past in your area or state

    ii. Quoting party/minority/civil rights leadership as denouncing tactics that discourage people from voting

    # Prime minority leadership to discuss the issue in the media; provide talking points

    # Place stories in which minority leadership expresses concern about the threat of intimidation tactics

    # Warn local newspapers not to accept advertising that is not properly disclaimed or that contains false warnings about voting requirements and/or about what will happen at the polls

    According to the Chicago Tribune the Messenger lie was only the start of the liberal game plan.

    A liberal group in Lansing and a political consulting firm in East Lansing that works with Democrats and was behind the proposal that would have made sweeping changes to the state constitution if it had been allowed on the November ballot began pushing the story to state media outlets Thursday.

    That's Diane Byrum's lobbying outfit, for the sake of clarity. The same lobbying outfit that is regularly and profitably employed by Mark Brewer and the Michigan Democratic Party. The Michigan Messenger, they get their money elsewhere. According to the Detroit News:

    The Messenger is one of six online publications aided by the Center for Independent Media, a 2-year-old nonprofit funded by a variety of liberal organizations.

    We're talking Stryker, Soros, Moveon.org... you name the liberal extremist billionaire group or individual and they're on the CIM Christmas card list.

    Just to be thorough, let's recap...

    Ultra-liberal John Stryker pays bloggers to write liberal blogs lying about Republicans.

    Stryker funded liberal blogs concoct a total and complete lie, astronomically far from the believable but outrageous enough to stoke and enflame racial tension.

    MDP funded liberal lobbyists and other liberal groups immediately pick up story and begin paid effort to distribute the lie nationwide.

    Mainstream media laps up the kool-aid like a four-hundred pound NFL lineman after two-a-days under a 120 degree sun.

    The press picked up the story and ran with it, BS and all. And in spades. According to a Google Search there are already forty-seven news articles and two-hundred-seventy-seven national blog articles about the Messenger lie. All of that in a matter of days.

    Thus, from outright lies a scandal is born.

    Contrast that with documented, chronic voter fraud being perpetrated by a liberal front group here in the Great Lakes State. According to the Ivory Tower:

    "There appears to be a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications," said Kelly Chesney, spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State's Office. "And it appears to be widespread."

    ...In recent years, ACORN's voter registration programs have come under investigation in Ohio, Colorado, Missouri and Washington, with some employees convicted of voter fraud.

    ACORN officials said they were looking into the problem.

    Sure they are.

    ACORN's little ethical problem certainly isn't new. These are issues they have cycle after cycle, election after election, and is a problem in Michigan that local clerks have been complaining about for months. Still, this story only "broke" a few days ago. The coverage, according to Google? Eleven news articles and one-hundred-eleven national blog posts.

    The disparity in blog activity speaks more to the developmental stages of the blogosphere and activist coordination (nationally, conservatives are still down though we're kicking butt here in Michigan). The disparity in mainstream media activity is inexcusable. Forty-seven to eleven. Forty-seven covering a blatant and obvious lie planted and advanced by ultra-liberal billionaires. Eleven for genuine fraud, identified statewide by both Republican and Democrat clerks.

    Not that the giant chasm in (biased) coverage should surprise us. Accurately reporting on Democratic fraud isn't anywhere in the official DNC election day manual.
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    Sep 16, 2008
    Macomb County GOP Chairman Says Liberal Blog Libeled Him


    SHELBY TWP., Mich. Ė Macomb County Republican Party Chairman James Carabelli said a liberal blogger libeled him last week, fabricating a quote attributed to him that has burned its way across the Internet and the mainstream media, adding he will take legal action Wednesday to clear his name.

    ďThis story is not true. The Michigan Messenger made it up,Ē Carabelli said. ďBecause of reckless and fabricated reporting by the Michigan Messenger, my good name has been besmirched on the Internet and across the mainstream media and my reputation irrevocably harmed. I never said what the Michigan Messenger quoted me as saying. Itís not true, and I want a full and complete retraction of the quote, and I am taking legal action to get it. Let me state, again and unequivocally, there is no such plan to use foreclosure lists to challenger voters, and I never said there was. This is a story line being pushed by one liberal blog, the Obama campaign, and their friends and operatives on the Left.Ē
    Sep 16, 2008
    Macomb County GOP Chairman Says Liberal Blog Libeled Him

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    Remember - with the left, the ends justify the means. They will do ANYTHING to regain power.
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