05-07-2012, 05:53 PM
The public demand for the death penalty is a rebellion against liberal elites who see crime as a symptom of societal problems, not as an act committed by an independent, responsible individual. Those who seek so-called "root causes" of crime fail to see the obvious, which is that the most basic root cause of crime is the decision of the criminal. No matter what has been done to someone, or what they have seen or been through, at the end of the day, we are still individuals who bear responsibility for our actions. Shorter sentences, more lenient parole criteria and other sympathetic acts on the part of intellectuals who lack empathy for victims of crime, but are heartbroken at the thought of a criminal being executed, end up making the choice to commit a crime more likely, rather than less.
05-08-2012, 10:03 AM
I know that case, although I never worked in Oakland County. I know of a worse example that I can't talk about.
At least Abrams hasn't killed anyone else. I remember when he turned 21 and was released from Maxey GOC-he was scheduled to go on Oprah, but showed up for his release hearing (which was a formality) all pimped up and she wouldn't let him on her show.
There is no easy answer when it comes to the young and violent. There probably needs to be blended juvenile/adult sentences for serious crimes.
05-08-2012, 11:38 AM
In truth, I'd rather have a unit full of lifers than a unit full of idiots doing a few years. Lifers are usually model inmates. The short timers are the ones who get into scraps with staff and who can't abide by the rules. In fact, when I had my own unit and if an inmate was acting the fool, usually it's the lifers that put them in their place.Deplorably Proud To Be An American
05-08-2012, 12:32 PM
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I'm not an expert on corrections, but I have read that there are indeed some dynamics in play other than "He's a criminal and will always be a danger to society." I read in one article that convict recidivism falls dramatically at certain ages and after certain periods of incarceration. No one is saying that there aren't convicts who are beyond rehabilitation, even in those European prisons to which I referred. I think we can agree that there is a difference between a man who murders his vicious ex-wife and one who murders a series of women who made the mistake of wearing green shoes.While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
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05-08-2012, 12:55 PM
05-08-2012, 01:05 PM
Also, regardless of whether someone can be rehabilitated the aspect of punishment must be observed. Jail is as much about punitative action as rehabilitation... maybe more.Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
05-08-2012, 02:47 PM
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