I've done a lot of volunteer work with canines and with taking dogs to nursing homes. I think Romney did something stupid, but not deliberately harmful. Handle it. How are you handling Obama's own statements that he ate dogs?
This whole gotcha thing is too ridiculous. Settle down. You're certainly entitled to your opinions, but they just get so long and drawn out.
And in another post you made one of your pronouncements about the Catholic church and marriage, relating to people who remarried. You must belong to a very hard-line church. I personally know people in St Louis, both previously married, both good people, who were married in the Catholic Church without annulments. (And no, it wasn't me, just some relatives). It depends on the individual church and the interpretation of the pastor.
Okay, time for some discussion. First, please tell me exactly what you think defines a marriage, and why marriage is important.
You might be frightened to know I have settled down since last week. lol. As for things being long and drawn out, you might notice that I'm usually the one who walks away from these fights on the board. That's because I'm one and there are several others. I usually don't keep it up. I actually walked away from this thread for a week just to see that it was still hot and going on its own. So, I don't think I'm the only one who draws things out. I think it might be bothering you that I'm keeping on more than usual. That's because right now I have a lot of convictions. They're very strong. They're as strong or stronger than the conservatives in this thread. I feel like it's actually immoral to be silent on the issues right now. I haven't felt this way in eight years. That said, I'm not going to help win an election by arguing on a message board, so there you go.
Wanted to address the church thing though. Needing annulments is Catholic church ideology. It's been that way in every Catholic church I attended as far as I know. That's just the ideology.
The Catholic Church does not permit divorce for valid sacramental marriages. In fact a valid sacramental marriage is impossible to dissolve thereby making divorce not possible if the marriage was sacramental.
In marriage, the two become one flesh in a union joined by God, (Mark 10:8). Jesus speaks about divorce: "Therefore what God has joined together, no human being must separate," (Mark 10:9). So for a marriage that meets the requirements of being a sacrament, divorce in the Catholic Church is not possible.
The annulment process is by which a marriage is determined whether or not it is valid, it is not a Catholic divorce process. If it found to be invalid (not meeting the requirements of a sacramental marriage) then an annulment would be granted.
If I am Catholic and divorced can I get remarried?
Perhaps, but only if you have received an annulment (which means your previous marriage was not considered a valid sacrament). If you receive a civil divorce, but no annulment, then you are still married to the other person in the eyes of the Church and would be committing adultery if you married another.
Jesus says, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery," (Mark 10:11-12).
Not sure why the Catholics you know are getting away with it so to speak. I guess it's for the same reason other Catholics are getting away with using birth control. The church is simply lightening up to a point.The rules are still technically in place though. But even if only a few churches were refusing to recognize divorced couples as remarried, my point still stands. There are legal marriages that some churches do not recognize as valid and the church's rights are not violated.
And I still have very strong convictions that say it's wrong to condemn homosexual marriage all the while supporting remarriage. With remarriage, we usually say it's between them and God, right? Why can't we say the same with homosexual marriage? I could understand the attitude if homosexuality was about having sex with teenage boys to make them learn to be men (which is btw, what Paul was probably hearing about), but two of the same gender in love and staying with each other for years? Far more years than a lot of the heterosexuals I know? No. Not the same thing at all. And I also want to say it's still wrong to be condemning homosexual marriage all the while refusing to wait until marriage. I'm telling you probably 98% of the people condemning homosexual marriages are being hypocrites. JMO.
Here...let me break it down for you...it seems to me that you have zero understanding of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment.
For starters, the Supreme Court has made it clear that the guarantee of equal treatment within the equal protection clause does not mean that governments cannot ever treat different people differently. States need not permit children to drive cars, for example, nor must they allow senior citizens to enroll in grammar school. As a basic rule, the Court has said that it is reasonable for states to build categories or classifications into the laws that they pass, and in fact, the "rational basis test" is one of the standards used by the courts to determine whether these classifications are fair. Also known as the Lindsley test, this standard says that if the reasons for treating people differently are reasonable and logically related to the law's purpose, then they are constitutional.
Now that being said...let me explain for your stupid ass why the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments are referred to as the "Civil War" Amendments...since you seem to be enveloped in stupid today.
http://library.thinkquest.org/J01123...amendments.htmThe Thirteenth, Fourteenth, and Fifteenth Amendments were important to the Civil Rights Movement. The Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery in the United States. The Fourteenth Amendment allowed Blacks to have the same rights as Whites. The Fifteenth Amendment allowed Blacks to vote. Although many people were against the amendments at first, the amendments were very helpful for the Civil Rights Movement.
If you relied on more than the stupid shit you read at DU to "inform" you about these serious grown up issues you wouldn't continue to look like such an ignorant jackass when you hit send.
You know you're stupid when you're sober...you should avoid posting on here when you're drunk.Okay, enough for tonight.
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