Plea deals often suck

Vepr · 06-09-2008, 09:13 PM

She is a waste of our air.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080609/.../cut_from_womb

**Phillygirl** · 06-09-2008, 09:16 PM

I can't believe this woman is sane.

**Zeus** · 06-09-2008, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Phillygirl

I can't believe this woman is sane.

The arguement could be made that anyone that commits a murder is not sane.

Yea plea deals at times seem like a bad deal but in this case the perp saved her life & saved the state a bunch of money and the victums family get a modicum of closure.

**Phillygirl** · 06-09-2008, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

The arguement could be made that anyone that commits a murder is not sane.

Yea plea deals at times seem like a bad deal but in this case the perp saved her life & saved the state a bunch of money and the victums family get a modicum of closure.

I disagree. A lot of murders are rational. These were not. Not in the least. You don't methodically kill children and still be considered sane.

**Zeus** · 06-09-2008, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Phillygirl

I disagree. A lot of murders are rational. These were not. Not in the least. You don't methodically kill children and still be considered sane.

Child or adult murder no difference it's still murder. The child aspect of it just gets a ,for lack of better word.a more emotional response.

**Phillygirl** · 06-09-2008, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Child or adult murder no difference it's still murder. The child aspect of it just gets a ,for lack of better word.a more emotional response.

No. You kill a child after you rape him in order to hide the evidence. That is rational. You kill multiple children after killing their mother because....well, that just doesn't make sense. Killing because someone didn't hand over their wallet fast enough..yeah, I can see the rationale in that.

This one just doesn't make any kind of sense whatsoever.

The state kills all the time. It's rational. It may or may not be wrong. But it's rational.

**Zeus** · 06-09-2008, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Phillygirl

No. You kill a child after you rape him in order to hide the evidence. That is rational. You kill multiple children after killing their mother because....well, that just doesn't make sense. Killing because someone didn't hand over their wallet fast enough..yeah, I can see the rationale in that.

This one just doesn't make any kind of sense whatsoever.

The state kills all the time. It's rational. It may or may not be wrong. But it's rational.

therein lies the rub. Trying to rationalize irrational behavior with emotional bias tossed in for good measure. A fallibility of us mere mortals.

gator · 06-09-2008, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Phillygirl

No. You kill a child after you rape him in order to hide the evidence. That is rational. You kill multiple children after killing their mother because....well, that just doesn't make sense. Killing because someone didn't hand over their wallet fast enough..yeah, I can see the rationale in that.

This one just doesn't make any kind of sense whatsoever.

The state kills all the time. It's rational. It may or may not be wrong. But it's rational.

Have you been drinking again tonight, Sweetie?

**MrsSmith** · 06-09-2008, 10:33 PM

I agree with Philly. This is over-the-top insane. There was nothing even remotely rational about getting the other kids from their father and killing them all.

**AlmostThere** · 06-10-2008, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by MrsSmith

I agree with Philly. This is over-the-top insane. There was nothing even remotely rational about getting the other kids from their father and killing them all.

What would you suggest be done with this woman considering your opinion on her mental state?

Also Zeus made the argument that the state saved a bunch of money. Illinois will spend about 1.5 million supporting her assuming a normal lifespan. I have no idea what her trial and appeals would cost but personally, whatever the cost, I'd want her on a gurney with a needle in her arm.