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05-23-2012, 04:33 AM
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05-24-2012, 10:16 PM
I understand your point. My favorite teacher was a handsome English teacher from Spain. All the girls thought he was the greytest and paid attention in his class. Of course, it was silly, as he was the dad of one of my friends. But he was a very good teacher.
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06-04-2012, 10:45 PM
I think I'm going to need a second job to pay for my kid's private education.
06-05-2012, 10:42 AM
I don't know much about Florida schools.
In Michigan, there is a huge difference between scores from wealthy or middle class suburban districts and poor urban or rural districts. There is also a big difference in the amount of school work and the expectations of parents and teachers in the more successful districts.
06-05-2012, 11:33 PM
One of the problems really is the teacher's union IMO. It serves its purpose in the sense that it helps teachers get paid enough. It's not fair to tell a teacher "You have to buy materials for your classroom, but we won't pay you squat." Some of the most caring people I know are either refusing to become teachers or to earn more degrees to stay teachers because of this very issue. It's not that they don't care, it's that they can't live broke.
OTOH, teachers unions have pushed for too many benefits. For example, many states have a rule that if you make it past three years, then you're practically untouchable. It's nearly impossible to get that teacher fired. It doesn't matter how crappy their teaching is, how many of their students are failing, etc. They're untouchable. It shouldn't be like that. Another problem I've seen is that if a teacher admits to not being able to come back for the rest of the year but refuses to quit/retire, then that position is not permanently filled by another permanent teacher. Many school districts can add on a substitute at a contract pay rate, but a lot of school systems don't get to do that. It's like "Are you going to come back tomorrow?" That's pretty bad.
So, I'd like to see teachers still get a decent amount of pay and I get offended at people who suggest they're not worth a dime, but honestly there are too many benefits that have been accumulated. I'd like to see some of those benefits go.In memory of those who have died protecting a society that hasn't always deserved it.
06-05-2012, 11:37 PM
Truth is students need the moral and academic support of their parents. When I volunteered in the school that had low scores, I found that the most successful students had involved parents. If the parent has the attitude of "School didn't do much for me, why should I encourage my child?," then the teacher is pretty much in for an uphill battle.
There have also been cases where the parents morally supported their children, but really didn't have the academic ability to help them with their homework. I've learned that there are actually quite a few adults who either can't read or can't read well. I think if we had more programs assisting adults with learning how to read, then you'd see the scores of their children go up.In memory of those who have died protecting a society that hasn't always deserved it.
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