Thread: Whose side is Pakistan on?
#1 Whose side is Pakistan on?
05-23-2012, 03:00 PM
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The Pakistani doctor who helped the CIA find Osama bin Laden has been sentenced to 33 years in jail for treason.Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
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Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
05-24-2012, 08:13 PM
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Ours when it comes to begging for money. Otherwise, not so much.
05-24-2012, 10:11 PM
" To the world you are just one more person, but to a rescued pet, you are the world."
"A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!"
Crocodiles are easy. They try to kill & eat you. People are harder. Sometimes they pretend to be your friend first.Ē Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter
05-24-2012, 11:02 PM"The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
05-25-2012, 01:34 AMGovernment is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.
We could say they are spending like drunken sailors. That would be unfair to drunken sailors, they're spending their OWN money.
05-25-2012, 01:39 AM"The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
05-25-2012, 12:17 PM
wonder how much bin laden was paying them to keep quite about his location for how many years???Liberals: Obama's useful Idiots
05-25-2012, 03:11 PM
As someone mentioned above, Pakistan's problem is its people.......ever since the British division, Pakistan has had severe difficulties governing itself, much of the country is tribal territory, essentially uncontrolled by the central body, subject to tribal leaders and law.
The government tries to be secular, because of the military, who control the nuclear weapons, and the secular civil authority is constantly walking a fine line between appeasing a substantial percentage of the population who are islamists, and Taliban, et al sympathizers, and the military taking control again
The government is constantly under threat from a military coup, or an islamist takeover.......
It's not a good situation, and likely never will get any better.......
05-28-2012, 01:58 AM
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Pakistan is considered a U.S. ally. However they do show resentment when the United States also supports India. Both of which have nukes aimed at eachother.
05-28-2012, 12:06 PM
Pakistan was originally part of India, but even that understates the causes and depths of the split. India was conquered by Muslims and subjected to horrific depredations. The Hindu Kush, literally the place where Hindus die, got its name because of the vast number of slaves exported by the various Muslim rulers who didn't survive the trip through the pass. Muslim rule of India was characterized by mass murder, rape, slavery and the destruction of everything that predated the Islamic conquest. When the British ruled India, they worked directly with anyone who was willing to become educated in the ways of the west, which meant the Hindus and Sikhs. When the British left, the Muslims refused to live in a democratic state in which they were not the majority, and embarked on a campaign of terror in order to win independence. They got it, and then immediately established hostilities with India.
Pakistan was a nominal US ally when India was in the Soviet sphere of influence, but the end of the Cold War has redefined the roles. India now seeks our support against China, while Pakistan sees Afghanistan as a source of strategic depth against India, and seeks to maintain control of it through the Taliban, which was nurtured by the Pakistani ISI. Thus, the current status quo, which is a Pakistani electorate that was galvanized by jihad and which saw Bin Laden as a Muslim hero, and a government that walks a fine line between pandering to the mob and maintaining a death grip on American aid.
Pakistan isn't an ally, so much as a powder keg, with more fuses than we can count.--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
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