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    The Justice Department told Florida election officials that they must stop their non-citizen voters purge. Florida argues it is not violating any law.

    BY MARC CAPUTO
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    The Justice Department ordered Florida’s elections division to halt a systematic effort to find and purge the state’s voter rolls of noncitizen voters.

    Florida’s effort appears to violate both the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which protects minorities, and the 1993 National Voter Registration Act – which governs voter purges – T. Christian Herren Jr., the Justice Department’s lead civil rights lawyer, wrote in a detailed two-page letter sent late Thursday night.

    State officials said they were reviewing the letter. But they indicated they might fight DOJ over its interpretation of federal law and expressed frustration that President Barack Obama’s administration has stonewalled the state’s noncitizen voter hunt for nine months.

    “We are firmly committed to doing the right thing and preventing ineligible voters from being able to cast a ballot,” said Chris Cate, spokesman for Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who was ordered by Gov. Rick Scott to conduct the search for potentially ineligible voters.

    DOJ’s written demand came hours after the agency refused to comment on the matter to The Miami Herald. It also followed a federal court ruling Thursday that struck down a Republican voter-registration law that a judge found too onerous.

    So far, Florida has flagged 2,700 potential noncitizen voters and sent the list to county elections supervisors, who have found the data and methodology to be flawed and problematic. The list of potential noncitizen voters – many of whom have turned out to be lawful citizens and voters – disproportionately hits minorities, especially Hispanics.

    About 58 percent of those flagged as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, a Miami Herald analysis found. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.

    Independent voters and Democrats are the most likely to face being purged from the rolls. Republicans and non-Hispanic whites are the least likely.
    SERIOUSLY, the house should go after Holder way more aggressively!
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    Independent voters and Democrats are the most likely to face being purged from the rolls. Republicans and non-Hispanic whites are the least likely.

    And????
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    In Defiance Of US Justice Department, Florida To Continue Voter Purge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
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    SERIOUSLY, the house should go after Holder way more aggressively!

    Exactly, he should only enforce federal law when it benefits the right.

    Florida needs to purge their voter registration rolls of anyone who might vote democratic. No mistakes this time.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkingBig View Post
    Exactly, he should only enforce federal law when it benefits the right.

    Florida needs to purge their voter registration rolls of anyone who might vote democratic. No mistakes this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Window licken' good!
    These so-called American citizens and WWII Vets complaining about being mistakenly kicked off the voter rolls.... haven't they heard of taking one for the team?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkingBig View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkingBig View Post
    These so-called American citizens and WWII Vets complaining about being mistakenly kicked off the voter rolls.... haven't they heard of taking one for the team?


    To make an omelet, you gotta break a few eggs, boys!!


    Every Obama voter wrongly turned away at the polls is a vote for America and restoring our Democracy!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkingBig View Post
    Exactly, he should only enforce federal law when it benefits the right.

    Florida needs to purge their voter registration rolls of anyone who might vote democratic. No mistakes this time.
    So, you favor allowing non-citizens to vote?

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    These so-called American citizens and WWII Vets complaining about being mistakenly kicked off the voter rolls.... haven't they heard of taking one for the team?

    To make an omelet, you gotta break a few eggs, boys!!

    Every Obama voter wrongly turned away at the polls is a vote for America and restoring our Democracy!!

    First off, Hispanics in Florida tend to be Cuban, who are more likely to vote Republican than any other ethnic group. Second, the disputed names are being reviewed in order to correct any possible disenfranchisement of legitimate voters. However, since you find this particularly onerous, perhaps you can suggest a more effective way to prevent ineligible persons from voting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    So, you favor allowing non-citizens to vote?
    Absolutely not. And just to make sure, let's have the most over-reaching and overzealous purging of the polls. I mean, it's not like we're executing a innocent person. We're just preventing them from voting... just in case.



    First off, Hispanics in Florida tend to be Cuban, who are more likely to vote Republican than any other ethnic group. Second, the disputed names are being reviewed in order to correct any possible disenfranchisement of legitimate voters. However, since you find this particularly onerous, perhaps you can suggest a more effective way to prevent ineligible persons from voting?
    FAIL. (you seem to be good at that)

    is reading not your strong suit?



    To spot noncitizens, though, the state began comparing voter rolls with a Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicle database that contains some citizenship information that the agency collects when people get a state ID such as a driver’s license.

    But the citizenship data in many cases is out of date. That is, many people become citizens after they get their ID and then register to vote. But the highway safety database isn’t updated.

    As a result, the state has performed its own checking and double-checking and winnowed down a pool of 180,000 potential noncitizens to a list of about 2,700. It is asking the counties to contact the voters by mail. Those who don’t respond within about two months of being contacted could be stricken from the rolls.
    The state made a list and submitted it to counties. The letters instruct the voter to prove they are legal. Your statement "disputed names are being reviewed" is false. The legal voters are having to waste their time with some convoluted bureaucratic process--it's not even clear who they go to. In other words, they were betting the disenfranchised voter would be to dismayed and frustrated to go though the process.


    As far as a suggestion: a) Do not violate federal law, numb nuts.

    How many illegals have gone to the trouble to get a fake drivers licenses AND then registered to vote, giving their real name and address. This is a non-problem. This is Fox-fear fantasy problem. Bo-oooo, acorn is gonna get you, gonna get you. Please O'keef, come save us!!

    Just because many citizens in FLA are goddamn retards that will let their state officials bugger them every which way, doesn't mean the rest of us can't see an obvious Karl Rovian dirty trick, poorly executed albeit.


    Who said Arizona is the new Florida? The "In God We Trust" state still knows how to hedge their bets better than anyone.
     

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