Thread: Obama grants Holder request on 'Furious' documents as contempt vote looms

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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    CNN’S LARRY KING: “Do you favor executive privilege or should Karl Rove and others in that like position be forced to testify before the House or Senate?

    OBAMA: “Well, you know, I think we’ll — we’ll determine over the next several weeks how this administration responds to the very appropriate call by Patrick Leahy, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, to have these individuals come in and testify. You know, there’s been a tendency on the part of this administration to — to try to hide behind executive privilege every time there’s something a little shaky that’s taking place. And I think, you know, the administration would be best served by coming clean on this. There doesn’t seem to be any national security issues involved with the U.S. attorney question. There doesn’t seem to be any justification for not offering up some clear, plausible rationale for why these — these U.S. attorneys were targeted when, by all assessments, they were doing an outstanding job. I think the American people deserve to know what was going on there.

    SOURCE: CNN’s “Larry King Tonight,” 3/20/2007

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    So, Obama's a fucking hypocrite. What else is new?
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    Thanks TX and Adam.
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    WZ has about the best on it.

    Flashback

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpwYh9TD6Nc

    Now the letter Holder sent his overlord.

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document...c_id=123092707

    Their crapping their pants. Holder knows their in deep, and unless they halt this, it will start taking them out one by one.

    But this will look bad going into a tough election for Obumble. He likely will have no choice but to toss Holder under his bus and run him over in hope of saving his re-election chances.
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    Executive Privilege is something that Democrats try to avoid invoking, because it smacks of Nixon, who was their bete noire for many years. It's become the Presidential equivalent of invoking the Fifth Amendment. The Clintons considered using it during the Lewinsky hearings, but decided to stonewall and play other games instead. If Obama is willing to go that far, then he needs to change his middle name from Hussein to Milhous and announce that he is not a crook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Executive Privilege is something that Democrats try to avoid invoking, because it smacks of Nixon, who was their bete noire for many years. It's become the Presidential equivalent of invoking the Fifth Amendment. The Clintons considered using it during the Lewinsky hearings, but decided to stonewall and play other games instead. If Obama is willing to go that far, then he needs to change his middle name from Hussein to Milhous and announce that he is not a crook.
    True, however in an election year this action is (at east to the uninitiated) an admission of guilt for voters. Compared to all of the other economic and foreign policy issues that the US faces, in the grand scheme of things this is somewhat minor, unless there is really something damning that needs to stay hidden.

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    It can be challenged in the Supreme Court. EP didn't work for Nixon and it shouldn't work for Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVDOC View Post
    True, however in an election year this action is (at east to the uninitiated) an admission of guilt for voters. Compared to all of the other economic and foreign policy issues that the US faces, in the grand scheme of things this is somewhat minor, unless there is really something damning that needs to stay hidden.

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    What makes it major is that Holder was complicit in a scam that led to the death of a Border Patrol agent let alone the countless deaths along the Mexican border. This makes it worse than Watergate as Watergate was just trying to steal Democratic strategies(which, oddly enough, he didn't really need). Holder's gaffe cost innocent lives.
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    In other news, the sun is hot. It shouldn't come as too much of a surprise that this happened. POTUS has done nothing but skirt around any and everything of relevance since January 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVDOC View Post
    True, however in an election year this action is (at east to the uninitiated) an admission of guilt for voters. Compared to all of the other economic and foreign policy issues that the US faces, in the grand scheme of things this is somewhat minor, unless there is really something damning that needs to stay hidden.

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    Unlike a lot of other Obama scams, this one is relatively simple. Fast and Furious was an attempt to remove the safeguards against selling guns to bad guys in order to create fake crime spike with American guns, so that the administration could impose more draconian laws. People get that, and the administration knows that if the evidence comes out, even its own supporters will have a hard time defending that.

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    What makes it major is that Holder was complicit in a scam that led to the death of a Border Patrol agent let alone the countless deaths along the Mexican border. This makes it worse than Watergate as Watergate was just trying to steal Democratic strategies(which, oddly enough, he didn't really need). Holder's gaffe cost innocent lives.
    People forget that Watergate occurred when the DNC was in bed with radical groups that had ties to the NVA, and were actively trying to undermine the Vietnam War. There were real national security implications there, and if Nixon's people had gone through the FBI and used legal wiretaps, they'd have been attacked in the press, but there would have been no scandal, or at least no lawbreaking.
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