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  1. #1 Two questions for Republican Christians 
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    Two questions for Republican Christians

    Do you believe Romney is Rich?.... do you believe Romney is going to Heaven?

    If Romney is rich, and by all accounts he is extremely rich, and Jesus said that it would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven, how is it possible Romney could enter Heaven? Why would you vote for a person you know Jesus himself would not allow into Heaven? Has your Party become more to you than Jesus Christ?
    Bandit, you're going to hurt yourself trying to act like you understand the story you quote from the Bible. But alas, I'll give you my answer.

    1. Yes I believe Romney is rich.
    2. According to the Bible, he will not go to heaven because he doesn't accept that Christ is the son of God

    ok?

    Jesus "allows" rich people in heaven. The operative point is that riches can make one view money as their god, which is 'having other gods before Me' and 'no graven images'. This is what Jesus was warning against, not your narrow view that no rich people can go to heaven.

    Some people have heaven on earth, as in, riches or fame for example are your reward, and not eternal life with God.
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    I have nothing that will add to that. Excellent post, Gina! Here -- have a cookie.
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    Let's take a look at that whole passage

    Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
    Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?”

    Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
    Matthew 19:23-26

    David was a man after God's own heart. He was rich and he went to heaven. Lot's of rich people in the Bible went to heaven. Having lots of possessions and money doesn't keep a person out of heaven. It is what they do with the possessions and money that matters. If the desire to acquire wealth supersedes ones relationship with God then it is bad. If one uses their wealth to glorify God then it is good.

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    And to add ... 0dummy and the Wookie are millionaires too.

    Are they exempted? Oh wait ... theyre gods... I forgot.
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    And btw ... money is not "evil".

    Its not the money thats the problem. Its what money does to you thats the prob. Money is an inanimate object like a gun. Its the user of the gun not the gun itself that causes problems. The gun can do nothing of its own accord. And most of us Christians easily grasp this concept. Very difficult for much of the secular crowd to 'get this' though.

    My little brother was a gazillionaire. When your rich its easier to rely on the power and the resources that wealth brings to you and less convenient to "rely on god" where real power resides. Money just brings out what was always in your heart before you became wealthy. Wealthy Christians realize your not going to be able to take any of that wealth with you into the next life. Naked we came into this world and naked we will leave.
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    Jesus also lashed out at the tax collectors.

    How do you DUmmies square that with your stupid "Jesus was a Liberal" meme?

    And FWIW given that the Liberal platform doesn't believe in a higher power than the Federal Government...why are they allowed to bring up God and Jesus without getting banned?
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    I think the bolded parts of the text say it all.

    The Romneys donated about 16.4 percent of their adjusted gross income of $42.5 million in the two-year period, according to their 2010 tax returns and an estimate for 2011 taxes. The 2010 return shows $3 million in charitable contributions, and the 2011 estimate shows $4 million.

    the Romneys had deductions for more than $2 million in donations that are listed as noncash charitable contributions. That includes tens of thousands of shares of stock in Domino’s Pizza Inc, Senasata Technologies, Dunkin Donuts and Warner Chilcott that went to his family’s Tyler Foundation, based in Boston. Romney’s Bain Capital acquired those companies, records show.

    The Tyler Foundation made $647,500 in donations during 2010, including $75,000 to the Center for the Treatment of Pediatric Multiple Sclerosis and $10,000 to the Dana Farber Cancer Institute. It also donated $145,000 to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, $100,000 to the George W. Bush presidential library and $10,000 to the Harvard Business School, of which Romney is an alumnus.

    Americans at Romney’s income level -- upwards of $10 million annually -- donated an average of 6.5 percent of their adjusted gross income to charity, according to IRS data from 2009, the most recent available.
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    Once again the Left try to make the Bible say something it does not...


    Another "Gotcha" moment FAIL!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Once again the Left try to make the Bible say something it does not...


    Another "Gotcha" moment FAIL!



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    I have yet to encounter a liberal online or in real life that actually knows and understands anything about the Bible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubie View Post
    I have yet to encounter a liberal online or in real life that actually knows and understands anything about the Bible.
    Why do you think they are trying to put out translations that are "updated"? Removing key words and/or phrases is paramount to their goal. I have a parallel Bible printed in 1978. I really want a concordance of my own though
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