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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluesniffer View Post
    That's nonsense and you know it. He's the only candidate who talks about ending all the partisan bullshit that's going on, if you listen to his speeches the sole conclusion is that he respects more opinions than any other candidate. Maybe you're just talking about his pastor, which would be a silly argument. He can't be taken accountable for what his pastor says, he's probably not even an active church-goer.
    Really???? Then why is he demonizing CEO's and business owners. Why does he lie to people and blame the republicans for his made up scenarios????


    Wages are higher now AND we have more jobs than at any point during Clinton's administration and yet he plays on peoples fears on this issue - telling them they are destitute and things are only getting worse. To add to the lie, he blames people like me WHO PROVIDE JOBS for those people. GOOD JOBS.
     

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    Partisanship = good.

    List of Bipartisan things in America lately:

    McCain - Feingold
    No Child Left Behind
    Iraq War
    McCain - Kennedy
    Kyl - Lieberman

    Yeah, heaven forbid you have a two party system.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    Partisanship = good.

    List of Bipartisan things in America lately:

    McCain - Feingold
    No Child Left Behind
    Iraq War
    McCain - Kennedy
    Kyl - Lieberman

    Yeah, heaven forbid you have a two party system.
    You forgot

    Patriot Act
    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound - Unknown


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    Partisanship = good.

    List of Bipartisan things in America lately:

    McCain - Feingold
    No Child Left Behind
    Iraq War
    McCain - Kennedy
    Kyl - Lieberman

    Yeah, heaven forbid you have a two party system.
    There's nothing wrong with political disagreement, it's just really ridiculous and unconstuctive to call eachother commies and fascists all the time. Everybody knows that's not the truth, grow the fuck up.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluesniffer View Post
    There's nothing wrong with political disagreement, it's just really ridiculous and unconstuctive to call eachother commies and fascists all the time. Everybody knows that's not the truth, grow the fuck up.
    Exactly. Name calling tends to be for those who have no argument.
    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound - Unknown


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluesniffer View Post
    There's nothing wrong with political disagreement, it's just really ridiculous and unconstuctive to call eachother commies and fascists all the time. Everybody knows that's not the truth, grow the fuck up.
    But you do realize the senate has a very clubby atmosphere? And the people who do the name calling tend to be the voters or pundits.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    Partisanship = good.

    List of Bipartisan things in America lately:

    McCain - Feingold
    No Child Left Behind
    Iraq War
    McCain - Kennedy
    Kyl - Lieberman

    Yeah, heaven forbid you have a two party system.
    POTY??????
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    The Republicans nominated the WORST of their offerings and so did the Dems.

    My personal pick was Thompson, I cannot imagine a worse candidate than Obama.

    In all honesty, he is not qualified to run a 7-11 let alone the country.
    +1:D
    I believe in a country of 300,000,000, we settled for two of the worst, a RINO whos most positive trait is his ability to give in to failed liberal ideas for political gain and a complete political novice who gives a decent speech with no substance, but hey, at least he's Black.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post

    In all honesty, he is not qualified to run a 7-11 let alone the country.
    I see Muslims running 7-11's all of the time.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gluesniffer View Post
    McCain is the only one with a reasonable stance on social issues. All the others try to outbid eachother on being closest to the Spanish Inquisition. At least McCain isn't such a dumb-opinion-exploiting populist.

    Obama could be accused of shallow populism (because he's vague) and sometimes having terrible ideas concerning economics (when bashing NAFTA for example), but he has been right on other important issues (the war) and it would be interesting to see what he really means with all the change thing, altough I don't expect too much of it.
    Obama IS accused of shallow populism. Don't get too excited about his ideas on "change." you've already seen some. He wants change as a motto because it has fooled over half the voters already. Any likely real change will be strickly liberal and poorly thought through. The feel good policies of the left are PROVEN losers and will not EVER work.

    To say he was right on the war is debatable. He has a view that others don't share. Simply because you share his opinion does not make it right.
     

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